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Thread: Center of Being... Broken!

ForceFencer
Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:07 pm
#1

The Devs touted this as the solution to melee tanking yet right now it takes 100+ mind, lasts about 30 seconds, and does ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!


Ive tried this on everything, creatures, NPC's, melee combat, ranged combat, ranged PvP, melee PvP, I even dueled another guy who has it.


Ima novice TKA and all this skill does it burn my precious mind bar with NO EVIDENCE OF BLOCKING< DODGING<EVADING<OR DAMAGE REDUCTION


Ive talked with 7 other melees, some still in the brawler tree, some masters, all of them agree, its does nothing!


I was really anticipating this skill =(


now its just a fun way to burn your mind in combat

dashida
Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:10 pm
#2

Someone mentioned instead of taking dmg for the round, you just get 1 wound.





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VikaLine
Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:26 pm
#3

Im Tera Kasi Master ive only tested it on two mobs thus far, b/c i was busy from the insane amounts of TRAIN MY MOUNT SELL ME MOUNT!!


2Khamurith Defilers at same time, Center of being up, Dodged 50% of every shot my screen honestly looked like this


Khamurith misses you


Khamurith misses you


Khamurity hits you xxx damage


Also relize at Novice your really not high enough in it to say its broken




Vikaline
-Master Doctor
-Tera Kasi Master
Zalas
Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:34 pm
#4

There's a difference between dodging, and it just missing you. I've tried in only in duels, it may have reduced my opponent's accuracy. I hear that it's supposed to up your dodge/counterattack/block rate, but Defensive Acuity seems to be broken as far as I can tell, because Pistoleer Dodge and Carbineer Counterattack seems to be working great now, but Rifleman Block is still broken.



Zalas Dryz'Narek
Codename: Aravar

Dragged out of retirement and back in action
The_Swain
Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:34 pm
#5

Listen to Zalas, he knows what he's talking about.



It's surprising how few people actually READ what the power does. It is described as making you more difficult to hit. Done. You get missed more often. It's that bleeding simple. Jesus. Cry about everything...




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-Ada-
Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:09 pm
#6

Center of being only works on whatever one target you are fighting at a time. Meaning if you decide to attack a bunch of social mobs .. the one you are attacking will not be able to hit you for 30 seconds .. while the others are raping your ass. thats why in one on one duels this skill seems like the shiznit ... its prolly good for killing krayts ... but not much else. Defensive Acuity is just broken which really sucks ..


One good thing about patch ... it doesnt take long to kill anything




Adai Swift-Stryke -MC-
Master Tera Kasi Artist
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-Ada-
Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:16 pm
#7

Oh sorry for double post ... but im a pistoleer .. 2 boxes from master ... with only 80 dodge but thats still alot ... i dont dodge .... not once .. ever ... vs anything ... tried with my pistol on .. unarmed ... standing on my fu$ki&g head ... and nothing. maybe that next 25 or so i get at master helps alot .. but i dont get 1 dodge so far ... maybe because i have pistoleer dodge is why my def acuity is broken ... but thats just speculation on my part. the rest is fact i gain from dueling and standing letting mobs pound my ass for an hour and reviewing the data.


Again ... my fists should be registered with nabooian authorities as a deadly a$$ weapon.




Adai Swift-Stryke -MC-
Master Tera Kasi Artist
Naritus Server
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_Macabre_
Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:39 pm
#8

It's hard to say it's broken without a statement on what it is SUPPOSED to do, but it sure seems to do nothing. I dueled another TKA and we both put CoB on and, well, if something was supposed to be different I must have missed it. I did see several"you take 1 shock wound" or something similar around the time the CoB ended (the message spammed several times at once, all in the same second in the combat log).. I was still being hit for normal damage once per second by the opponent. I tried it against some creatures and they did indeed miss me a lot but they did even without CoB on. Again, took some BF around the end, nothing else looked different.


So apparently that's what it does, gives you some BF for your trouble. Yay! We don't need no stinkin' creature tanks now!




Jiawa,
Teras Kasi Master / Master Doctor
Master Smuggler (Retired)
Master Creature Handler (Retired)
Slimeballer
Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:49 pm
#9

does this apply on grouped factional pets?


cause my AT has been dodging shots a lot lately


Must be a funny sight tho, an AT dodging lol




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Steegee
Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:18 pm
#10

ok, i tested this skill a few times int he last 3-4 hours. Here's what i've seen.



Doesn't work on range. In duels i was taking damage like normal when hit, and didn't dodge/evade once. In duels and melee i was hit just the same but would get a msg that i get wounds and shock wounds. The damage still sprang from my ham and the number above my head still showed the damage i was taking. In pve i was taking more damage over all with cob than if i had just used the ham to debuff the mob. So in my opinion this doesn't do anything for me. I will replace this icon on my toolbar back with my vk that i removed thinking this was a worthy skill to have there. I'm sorry, but i don't get confirmation that it's working. I'd rather use the ham cost to debuff my target than use this skill. Atleast then i can see some results. As i've said before, the only confirmation that this skill is working is the wounds and shock wounds i'm getting. But i still retain the damage i get like normal and it's not being replaced with 1 damage as it says in my combat window.



From what was given before this skill was released from TC, i was under the impression that this skill allows us to block/dodge/evade/counter attack made on us till the timer was done, or we attacked back. None of it is true so far, perhaps i'm wrong. Would like Heavy to test this out and see what he thinks. I'm not impressed. Have to say, once again they release a patch with more bugs than fixes



On the bright side i can be a politician. They are good at dodging attacks and counter-attacking.




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Zalas
Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:37 pm
#11

I've seen some results by a swordsman, who counterattacked MUCH more with Center of Being on. So I think Center of Being is supposed to greatly increase our chance of doing a dodge/block/counterattack. But since Defensive Acuity is broken, it appears to be doing nothing.




Zalas Dryz'Narek
Codename: Aravar

Dragged out of retirement and back in action
vortex4
Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:33 pm
#12

Put my vote in the doesn't do jack sh1t column.
cimianx
Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:50 pm
#13

Defensive acuity is broken, and thus COB for TKA is broken (it relies on DA to do it's thang). My Wookiee fencer (just 0201) is a dodging fool with COB. He used to dodge pretty good before COB, but now it's simply amazing. My TKM...well, he's just like before except he donates HAM to the mob for the COB duration. Hope Heavy is all over this one, and not chasing after the Jedi dream.




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