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Thread: TKA Uber? Try me in my 80% kinetic comp

Fidlaf
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:12 am
#1

I've been a TKM/Mrifle since launch, through the good and the bad. A nerf to either wouldn't bother me because I believe it's the skills not the /commands that win in PvP. But let me tell you nerf criers something.


I wear 80% kinetic comp and I'm always buffed to around 3300 health ham. I got dizzy/kd by another tkm. I just switched to my vk's while I lay on the ground (makes you harder to hit than when you're holding a rifle) and slowly spam /stand. The TKM beat on me for about 80 long seconds. His friend kept him healed, he had to take mind drugs at one point because Unarmed 3 was draining him... I waited, when my health got to 1k I spammed /stand and heal. after 80 second I finally managed to get up, i dizzy/kd him and run away shooting... He had just enough time to say 'hell'.


Moral of the story is... You think we TKM's are uber? Buy some friggin armor... You Think riflemen are uber? By a friggin stun helm.


Go ahead and nerf me, Ill kill you anyway.

Go ahead and nerf me, get the plebians off my template.

Leave the TKM's alone, nerf rifles if you want to nerf something.



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TheJediMaster628
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:16 am
#2

Fidlaf you have got it right,all it takes is some armor,and we lose.



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antares_Kauri
Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:46 am
#3

The same could be said for any of the other classes that don't have a stun weapon. Composite resists everything else as good as or better than kinetic after slicing.


antares
master pikeman



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Tyrael_the_Archangel
Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:17 am
#4

OMG! This is THE MOST STUPID thread i've ever seen...it's like saying: "Hey, bread is made out of wheat!" or.."Apples are green and red!"


COME ON PEOPLE! It's not like it's fresh news that we get 0\/\/n3d if sum1 uses 80 compo (or 80 ubese, for that matter).


geeeez....waht's to come of this world



Tyreal Hikaru
Ahazi
SilentJay1284
Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:53 am
#5


80% armor...how to win...



  • I dont know, perhaps you can weara VK to balance the AP Light, so now its dead even

  • Followed by a dizzy/KD to drop the resists to 40%

  • A good stun to lower defenses...

  • Followed by a nice Intimidate

  • And then just do mindhit1 with every 3rd or 4th being a dizzy while keeping fingers in KD2/Lunge.




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Osskti
Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:09 am
#6



Good post dude!


THe whole TKA doing only kenetic damage is the reason I also throw poison.



Osskti

"Haden Blackman is RIGHT! Everyone is happy and there is no problem with the game's situation...I mean you're still paying to play right!?"
Trambok
Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:10 am
#7






antares_Kauri wrote:

The same could be said for any of the other classes that don't have a stun weapon. Composite resists everything else as good as or better than kinetic after slicing.


antares
master pikeman







Thats If you throw out the fact that VK's are only light-armor piercing.


A t-21 is way more effective against 80% energy armor, than a set of vk's is against 80% kinetic.


I'm a master Tka,Master Rifleman, Fencer, and I will say , yes, there are certain advantages to TKA over some of the other melee classes.Most notably powerboost and meditate, but when It comes to damage over time , TKA's are NOT overpowered.And having only 1 type of damage(kinetic) makes it easy to know what kind of attack is coming , which in-turn makes it easy to defend against.


If you understand a TKA's weakneses, they are easily beaten...... I wear armor with 87% resists across the board,and I keep away from melee classes unless I wish to engage in melee myself.


Most of the people that cry about getting wtfpwned by a tka, would cry if there were as many master pikeman around ,and would cry if there were as many master swordsmen around,would cry if there were as meny fencers around.


Noobs freak out and cry nerf when they feel the power of a melee class at close range. HELLO....MCFLY.....We are MELEE,and as such, we have to get close.A melee classto be DEVASTATING at close range,or it makes melee classes pointless.



Lightningflier
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:46 pm
#8

I am an MTKA. I was in a faction skirmish last night. I fought an imp swordsman, and he was fully buffed and had 80% composite (I was fully buffed also). I couldn't even get his ham to lower. MTKA are not uber when facing someone with 80% composite.



Hopefully the devs take that into account with the upcoming rebalance. It seems like everyone is on the nerf TKA bandwagon, and I don't understand it. We simply aren't that uber.


Cakins7005
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:52 pm
#9

I hate to bring this up, but you can wear 80% armor too. Armors can have 80% to everthing but stun. On my server, Stun layered comp with about 40% stun resists have 60 % for everything else. If you choose the 80% comp armor over the stun layered armor, then you might not do very well in PvP against Rifleman and Fencers.



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antares_Kauri
Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:57 pm
#10

But what was the swordsman using? A kinetic AP1 weapon or a blast AP2 (25% bonus) weapon (slower, more susceptable to mitigation)? If you had been wearing sliced composite also, he would have had the exact same trouble against you. You can get composite to be more effective against other damage types than kinetic and stun by slicing. Common high-end armor is 85-90% effective against everything but kinetic/electricity (special effectiveness) and stun (low special or vulnerable). It's not a TKA only problem.

antares
master pikeman



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JLG88
Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:04 pm
#11






Trambok wrote:






antares_Kauri wrote:

The same could be said for any of the other classes that don't have a stun weapon. Composite resists everything else as good as or better than kinetic after slicing.


antares
master pikeman







Thats If you throw out the fact that VK's are only light-armor piercing.


A t-21 is way more effective against 80% energy armor, than a set of vk's is against 80% kinetic.


I'm a master Tka,Master Rifleman, Fencer, and I will say , yes, there are certain advantages to TKA over some of the other melee classes.Most notably powerboost and meditate, but when It comes to damage over time , TKA's are NOT overpowered.And having only 1 type of damage(kinetic) makes it easy to know what kind of attack is coming , which in-turn makes it easy to defend against.


If you understand a TKA's weakneses, they are easily beaten...... I wear armor with 87% resists across the board,and I keep away from melee classes unless I wish to engage in melee myself.


Most of the people that cry about getting wtfpwned by a tka, would cry if there were as many master pikeman around ,and would cry if there were as many master swordsmen around,would cry if there were as meny fencers around.


Noobs freak out and cry nerf when they feel the power of a melee class at close range. HELLO....MCFLY.....We are MELEE,and as such, we have to get close.A melee classto be DEVASTATING at close range,or it makes melee classes pointless.







my pike is most affected by mitation 3 than any other class.....my 2 damage types are lightning & kinetic, the most resisted attacks on armor. i do 20 damage to tkm's when they are kded & dizzied w/ pole hit 3 & my 850 damage pike. believe me. you don't suffer.




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Omegaplex
Thu Apr 01, 2004 4:46 pm
#12


The grass is always greener on the other side, no?


For all the TKMs who've never been a swordsman, fencer, or pikeman, make sure you don't *ever* complain (or even cliam not to be 'uber') on those boards. You'll be crucified out of ignorance alone. If you think you've got some 'weaknesses,' you have *no* idea of the plight of other melee professions. We don't just haveweaknesses - we have severefunctionality problems.There's a counter-argument in the wings for just about everything, but it's undeniable that TKMs are the most powerful melee profession in the game. The rest of us don't give a damn aboutthe TK profession orit's politics- we just wantour profession(s) *fixed,* much less working as well as yours.


Excuse me if I don't shead any tears

Message Edited by Omegaplex on 04-01-2004 03:47 PM



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Gearek
Fri Apr 02, 2004 4:50 am
#13

lets see......yup, ive mastered TKM, HS, most of fencer.........ummm TKM proly the worst in PvpPlol at least MSH has blast armor only has 60 to that and if they're wearing ubese theyre done for, not kinetic, oo and try hitting a nightsister elder with TKM.......no go, so dont say TKM is uber unless uve fully played it plz



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