Teras Kasi Archive

Well I don't totally know what is going to happen, but I like the idea of you guys not being able to spam KD/Dizzy. I don't think you should get rid of it, the 90% thing might be harsh, but if it were like 75-80% or something. I mean me as a commando I miss more than I hit, and I don't like that but you gotta admit it is somewhat fair with the fact that I can hit for 3-5k sometimes. At least till they figure things out better, and the KD/Dizzy as it is now is ridiculous. I would like it better if they just got rid of the Dizzy/KD combo its just not fair paired as one move.Seperate thecombo into two specials and give you guys a delay so that if you trip me I can get up, or if you dizzy me I don't necessarily fall down but you mightknock me down later where the dizzy will play a role then, but now you do one move and win.Its a db in itself, my flame DOT isn't that damaging. People who know how to react tothe flamecan survive it(with water, or going to prone while healing themselves, etc.., but it still does do serious harm to them even if htey survive. As I said though I miss more than I hit so I see it as a fair trade off, so if you guys maintain the dizzy/KD combo then I think I would agree with the defense they are giving everyone, but as I said maybe 90% is harsh...lets go 80%, maybe lower too but the defense has to be useful. I mean TKM's are the force in PvP now, and while they should remain a force they shouldn't be the force. I mean think about it people go for a gun so theyhave one up onunarmed combat.So the probablility of an unarmed martial artist to beat aguy with a flamethrowerjust isn't there, but I understand its a gameand it needs to be fun for all. Just seems that there should be a hierarchyof professions to SOME DEGREE. You could make TKM's not verygoodagainst guns at a believable distance, but whenthey come into your distance you can go so far as to unarm them, but make theprobability be like 4 our of 9 times or something like that.Also a cripple hit where if you don't unarm the person you can hurt them to the point where their accuracy is severilyhandicaped so they might still hit you like theywould, but their accuracy is gone so they hit you as much as a novicemarksman might. That type fighting is more realist than Dizzy/KD from 20+ meters, and you know youdo it. Thats not believable at all, I should have the advantage till like 10m or so. You guys need some major delays too, just not right for you guys to be able to spam. If commandos could spam then it would negate the inaccuracy we have so if you guys get to keep the Dizzy/KD combo then I say give you guys the same delay my flamethrower has, that way if we both miss then we got round two. If you miss and i flame you I more or less win, if I miss and you KD/Dizzy you win. That seems more fair, but at the same time I don't like leaving it to chance. Needs to be a system that envolves strategy not just who gets the special in first. Anyway, I know you guys are gonna rape me as a commando but I thought I would send some flavor from another profession for the devs to take into account while they get ideas for your profession.PLEASE PUT IN DELAYS, AND SEPERATE THEDIZZY/KD INTO TWO DIFFERENT MOVES WITH THE DEFENSE FOR OTHERS TOO.Later.

TK's already have two seperate moves which KD and Dizzy. If they remove the combo move then they need to replace it with something cool like a bleed or new damage type.

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JerMoo wrote:
Well I don't totally know what is going to happen, but I like the idea of you guys not being able to spam KD/Dizzy. I don't think you should get rid of it, the 90% thing might be harsh, but if it were like 75-80% or something. I mean me as a commando I miss more than I hit, and I don't like that but you gotta admit it is somewhat fair with the fact that I can hit for 3-5k sometimes. At least till they figure things out better, and the KD/Dizzy as it is now is ridiculous. I would like it better if they just got rid of the Dizzy/KD combo its just not fair paired as one move.Seperate thecombo into two specials and give you guys a delay so that if you trip me I can get up, or if you dizzy me I don't necessarily fall down but you mightknock me down later where the dizzy will play a role then, but now you do one move and win.Its a db in itself, my flame DOT isn't that damaging. People who know how to react tothe flamecan survive it(with water, or going to prone while healing themselves, etc.., but it still does do serious harm to them even if htey survive. As I said though I miss more than I hit so I see it as a fair trade off, so if you guys maintain the dizzy/KD combo then I think I would agree with the defense they are giving everyone, but as I said maybe 90% is harsh...lets go 80%, maybe lower too but the defense has to be useful. I mean TKM's are the force in PvP now, and while they should remain a force they shouldn't be the force. I mean think about it people go for a gun so theyhave one up onunarmed combat.So the probablility of an unarmed martial artist to beat aguy with a flamethrowerjust isn't there, but I understand its a gameand it needs to be fun for all. Just seems that there should be a hierarchyof professions to SOME DEGREE. You could make TKM's not verygoodagainst guns at a believable distance, but whenthey come into your distance you can go so far as to unarm them, but make theprobability be like 4 our of 9 times or something like that.Also a cripple hit where if you don't unarm the person you can hurt them to the point where their accuracy is severilyhandicaped so they might still hit you like theywould, but their accuracy is gone so they hit you as much as a novicemarksman might. That type fighting is more realist than Dizzy/KD from 20+ meters, and you know youdo it. Thats not believable at all, I should have the advantage till like 10m or so. You guys need some major delays too, just not right for you guys to be able to spam. If commandos could spam then it would negate the inaccuracy we have so if you guys get to keep the Dizzy/KD combo then I say give you guys the same delay my flamethrower has, that way if we both miss then we got round two. If you miss and i flame you I more or less win, if I miss and you KD/Dizzy you win. That seems more fair, but at the same time I don't like leaving it to chance. Needs to be a system that envolves strategy not just who gets the special in first. Anyway, I know you guys are gonna rape me as a commando but I thought I would send some flavor from another profession for the devs to take into account while they get ideas for your profession.PLEASE PUT IN DELAYS, AND SEPERATE THEDIZZY/KD INTO TWO DIFFERENT MOVES WITH THE DEFENSE FOR OTHERS TOO.Later.

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Im still new to TK, and I havent PvPed much in this game, but dont we still have a good chance to catch someone kiting you with aUnarmed Lunge? I understand in PvP the resists will be higher than PvE but I still would imagine it would be fairly useful. Of course I'm not happy about this change either, I watched my brother use KD/Dizzy on people and it looked like a hugely useful tool.

I grinded my way through Unarmed to get to Novice TK, no turning back now, even if we do get nerfed into oblivion, as long as I can still PvP =D

Yea well we have to use it when the ranged cowards run from us

I mean you say that KD dizzy unbalances the game? Well I say kiting unbalances the game and makes it very unfair for melee. And on top of that kiting is a very cowardly and cheap tactic much cheaper the KD dizzy ever was or ever will be

So shut up!!!!!!!!

Dizzy/KD is a totally viable pvp move. Hell, (if it was working) Carbineers have an area KD. A lot of classes have powerful specials (when used in the proper situations). Ya TKMs still have to get pretty close to apply the move, blame un-attentive whiney ranged fighters for your nerf. That and the other melee classes who don't know how to play their class.

What I would like to see for TKM's would be (at master) a lowering of the 1.0 speed cap. Obviously the particulars of how far would need a lot of balance testing. To compliment their HAM spanning attacks (health, action & mind hit specials that is), give them a multi-bleed that hits all 3 pools but for less than a single target bleed from another class. Heck, give 'em an AE version of that at master. It would make the docs/medics/CM's work harder since they'd have to /firstaid more.

Just some thoughts from a Master Heavy Swordsman/Teras Kasi Artist.

Its cowardly cause you are running from a fight and not giving the other person a chance which is totally not right

IT is cheap and unfair!!!!

Ok ranged folks here is something for ya that anyone who has played Paintball knows for a fact. I am sure that with real weapons even blasters it would be even worse.

Trying to run away blindly from an unarmed attacker while trying to shootBEHIND you is going to makeyou run very slow and ackward. If you dont trip and take a header into the pavement I doubt you would be able to hit muchand would be easy to catch.

Try to hit me with a paintball gun while in a dead sprint away from me and I assure you I will be on your butt in no time.

Ranged players need to realize that a Martial arts profession Judo Aikido etc. can throw your butt to the ground far easier than a PIstol marksmen shooting your knee caps off at a full sprint dumping you to the floor.

Stop complaining about it and Kite us its not hard since you run the same speed we do. If they Nerf KD then they should give us a Disarm attack then we will just take those guns from you and shove them up your er....well you get the picture.

If they get a KD food weneed a Ranged food sounds fair to me. I still dont get how a cookie can make you harder to knock down but the Dev's never have made much sense in this game.

Fact is If they change, ballance or NERF our abillity to use what we have worked for because theylisted and made it that way then they will loose customers very FAST.

Do think paying someone to steal from you is worth staying for ? I dont.

NERFing without compensation is stealing from us plain and simple.