Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Please Stop Saying TKA Cant PvP Aginst Ranged Players!!!!!!!!!
Guys,
I know many of you have concerns about kiting....I am here to tell you no one, but no one has been more critical of this profession than ME!
Anyone who spends time on this board knows that. I have to, However say to you guys that TKM is the Shiznat when it comes to PvP. I have been PvPing for about a month know since I got TKM and at first..yeah I got owned alot only because I didnt know what I was doing!
Now I cant tell you that me and my Guild members are feared on my server....we go into cantinas and notoriously Imperial heavy towns and clean house...it is not uncommon for me and One other TKM to tkae out 6-7 players at a time!
Now dont get me wrong...I still die sometimes...but it either takes a group of people or one well skilled veteran to take me out! DO NOT CHASE KITERS~~~
If you chase kiters you deserve to die! When someone runs from you...run the other way...time and time again thier ego overides thier good judgement and they turn around and chase you! Then they are doomed! I either let them get close and turn around quickly and run towards them head on (which closes the distance twice as fast ) or I run into a building in which case they cant run anymore....then BAM...KD2 then and this is important...make sure you use dizzy! They will lay there and convulse on the floor trying to get up....it is over at this point..every time!
Now if you are going into a know Imp area or Rebel area depending on your faction...use buffs or powerboost..these are great skills and will help alot......
Now this is a little use advantage. I say this to help...I dont have to use them but they help when fighting a group...USE PERSONAL SHIELDS! These things are great when in a bad situation....those guys will blast away and do minimal damage and after you kill them they will out of ignorance scream NERF! hahahah
Well I have said my peace...I wont flame anybody cause evryone has thier opinion...But I say it is not that TKA is no good in PvP..it is because you guys havnt learned how to PvP yet...and I dont say that as an insult cause I too am still learning and had the same concerns as you guys...but in closing TKM is the Shiznat!
The problem with this tactic is that it assumes you're facing against someone who is stupid. I used to be a rifleman. And I can tell you, if I was fighting someone and they ran at me, I ran away. I did not allow them to close the distance and if they stop chasing me, then I moved back within range. I did not run up to them. Why would I? I have a gun. If they went into a building, I shrugged and gave up.
Yes we all know you are very critical. *cough*
Personal shield generators are nice though, thanks for the hint to newer people.
My mistake, bloody forums here. Allow me to continue.
I've done a little PVP as a Teras Kasi Master myself. I'll post what I've learned.
Bounty Hunters can one shot me with a Lightning Cannon unless I'm buffed. Then its a toss up.
Commando's can one shot me with various weapons, or leave me burning till I have 1 Health.
(Note: If you are buffed, you will not accumulate wounds to the point where you have less then 0 when you clone. Thus, if I have 700 Health. Buff myself 550. I created a 550 buffer of health that cannot be wounded. Throw in some doctor/entertainer buffs and you last longer in combat while burning.)
I probably need to start using armor more.
Combat Medics are powerful, but not immediately so. For the most part if they do not run, you can get to them and take them out before their poisons/diseases really kick in. At this point, meditate.
Eyespam sucks.
We are better off then any other Melee Class once you get into the Elite Classes.
KD2 is overpowered. But not as much as other skills in the game.
Dizzy1 and Lunge1 can be just as overpowered as KD2 when used in conjunction.
Its not the pistoleer's fault that if he's 20m away running away from me, there's nothing I can do as a Teras Kasi to stop him from incapping me short of breaking line of sight via wall, building, etc.
It's not the pistoleer's fault my screen says he's at 3m but he is out of range.
I can attack and use specials while moving. The running animation takes precedence over the attacking one. Though sometimes I'll see the red ribbons behind my hands and feet as I run. (Kinda funny)
There is server latency between the server and my computer.
There's certainly more things I've learned, but I can't remember them at this hour. So I'll leave it at that.
Sh'kar.
OK..I can tell you right now..I own Riflemen....the fact is is that you can try to stay in range and run at me and away but ultimately I will get you. I cant tell you how many time I have used these tactics and done other things on the fly to deal with you guys...granted I have been taken out by the T-21...its a bad gun...but I can say I have killed more rifleman than I have been killed by riflemen. I can burts or turn around while you ar trying to stay in range and close the distance of what 60m....subtract my 10m range for KD...so 50m..I can close the distance of 50M faster than most have time to react for.
So no, riflemen are no acception...you guys go down just as easily when played right.
The tactic of running away from an enemy an wait for them inside some building only works on cities. In cities yes, we are hard to kill if you know how to play it right. But outside, in the wilderness we are an easy prey to any ranged character who knows how to pvp and use his profession right. No matter how good we are at pvp and TKM we will get own by someone who knows how to. I have killed many players and many at the same time...most I have killed in a fight was 3 at a time. But not because I kick ass...just because they other players didnt know how to play well their ranged professions. If they knew how to, I would have never hit them most likely. As it is no matter how much you say we kick ass, we really dont.
I love to be a TKM dont get me wrong but I recently learned that I was blinded. Its not me been bad ass, its the other players who dont know how to pvp. You can argue about this all you guys want. Ever since this game started Ialways defended our profession but after been kited in circles, eyeshot to death, burned to hell, etc...I have changed my mind. The only way to win a fight as it is, is hoping the other guy doenst know jack about pvp with his ranged character.
I went pvp'ing for my first time the other night. It was fun, but really nerve racking with all the LAG(which w/o the lag, I probably would've done alot better.) I think I just got lucky, but I did manage to kill 7 people. Luckily I wasn't fighting them all at once.. If I try to take on an entire group of ranged people, it's over for me, simple as that. I was really worried about the whole kitting thing, and still am for the most part.. but maybe I can put my ranged weapon down for now and try to use straight tk tactics(if there are many..)
Ekryth Skyrunner
ps- oh yea, don't you just hate it when there's so much lag, that when you arrive in a new city after taking the shuttle, you're lying on the ground incap. lol
I'm no longer a rifleman. In any case. More things I've learned over the past.
Marksmen can burst run too. And its alot easier keeping a target between 20-60 meters then it is closing 60 meters against someone who's paying attention. Otherwise, we're back to the point of the enemy being something other then smart.
"I can burts or turn around while you ar trying to stay in range and close the distance of what 60m....subtract my 10m range for KD...so 50m..I can close the distance of 50M faster than most have time to react for."
Now you'd just be chasing the rifleman while he kites you. Same with any Ranged profession.
Sh'kar
THATS the biggest problem with PvP'ing with a brawler, hands down. If what I saw was accurate, I would have no problems in pvp.
Ok first Xkogen or however you spell it......it is obvious you are already defeated in your mind about this dude. Every comment you have made has been negative and self-defeating...thus, yeah you are gonna get owned just because you got beat a couple times....you can refute me all you want but the fact is...I kille alot of people, all the time.
You cant take that away with all your negativity...I am here to tell you that TKM rocks and yeah I get beat still but not as much as your making out...I also win alot..but not all the time...the way it is supposed to be.
Now I am not trying to run your opinion down..or your view point, its just that I cant see your view point cause while you claim we cant do nothing, I am looking at a Master Commando lyingon his back about to get Death Blown by ME!
TKM can PvP and thats all from experience, not opinion!
I never said there was nothing we could do, or that we were ineffectual. Only that if your target is adamant about staying away from you, you're going to have a very very difficult time closing on a target. I've dueled and done PVP alot, I already said and I know first hand how easily a Teras Kasi Master can utterly and completely obliterate something once he or she gets to it. There are precious few things that can stand against me within Melee range, including Commandos seeking to excecute their specials. I've decimated fully grown gnarled rancor in under ten seconds, Merek Toxic Battlelords in under a minute.
I've dueled guild members alot and most of the time I win, but thats mostly because they don't do things like spam eyeshot, setme on fire, or backpedal away. They all know at that point, there's little I can do beyond prevent myself from being incapped or attempting to lure them into an area I can corner them and get within striking range. Perhaps you're fortunate enough to find people who don't agree with making it impossible for you to win. Or perhaps they're just foolish and make mistakes. I've not been present to offer any details as to what they did wrong to allow you into striking range. Because truly, at that point its over. Try not to put words into my mouth, please. And if you care to actually arguethe points I brought up, drop me a private message. And its XKogenX. But you can call me Sh'kar. Or Kogen, even. All my friends do.
Sh'kar
