Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: A proposition/petition: make tkm WAY harder to get
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-vash
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:46 pm
#1
hello.
Here is a proposition...
To stop constant NERF TKA threads i think that the dev's should just make tkm WAY harder to get. i think that it is stupid that some people can get from tk novice to tkm in 2 days. If dev's simply make unarmed exp harder to get we might not see tkm everywhere and tk novice + up everywhere... Since yes, i agree it is overpowered , why not make it actually "hard" to get tkm. Sign here if you think that getting tkm should be harder, as in , perhaps instead of +70 unarmed dmg in tk novice make it +30, and make tkm + 100. sign if u agree. thank you.
Kal-El-Shafer
Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:02 pm
#2
I Disagree. The same hardecore do-nothing-but-play-this-game types who master stuff like that in 2 days, are the same jerks who make this game harder to enjoy by the Casual Players in this game. So if you make things harder b/c of the ppl who play this game everyday, where does that leave the ppl who only have 10 hours a week or so to play it?!? So many things in this game have already catered to the "hardcore/EQ" type players, that Raph Koster even admitted in a recent article in CGW that they have "catered to the EQ crowd, at the risk of alienating other types of players."
Nuff said. I have better things to do than play this game 40 hours a week, so thanks but no thanks.
Stormbilly
Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:06 pm
#3
I disagree. A lot of profession are that easy to level. TKA novice is already the hardest to achieve. By saying it needs to be harder to level up, you are also assuming that it is too powerful, and that is why it should be harder? I would agree with this too. TKMs aren't as powerful as everyone thinks.
Warlock_The_Darkone
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:07 pm
#4
Stormbilly wrote:
I disagree. A lot of profession are that easy to level. TKA novice is already the hardest to achieve. By saying it needs to be harder to level up, you are also assuming that it is too powerful, and that is why it should be harder? I would agree with this too. TKMs aren't as powerful as everyone thinks.
getting TKA novice does take time... is it hard, no! Getting TKM is not hard nor is it that time consuming. MR is allot harder to get and takes about 2 times along to get. MBE is one of the hardest to grind through and yet... it still can be done....
Some proffshions are very easy to master... TKM is one of them... that doens't make them UBER... and they are good in PVE, not in PVP... a Master Fencer will on most cases own a TKM.... why... the defences... but.... hey... that is how it is supose to be.... can't be great at everything.. or the big nerf bat will come for you because to many darn people complain...
Buck up... if you think it is over powered compared to your proffshion, become one... someday the devs will see the light... no reason to force feed negitive thoughts or hate the players that play the game and work things that are intended to be that way!
Tarak_Rexus
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:17 pm
#5
The only people that get TKM easily are those who are very into this game and know excellent ways to gain lots of good exp. I have schoolwork and cannot bother to sit all day, but when I have the time, I work my way up to TKM and Master Medic. Lucky for me, I'm getting easter break soon, so I'll have a week all free... by the end of the break I'll be a TKM for sure, I think it's easy to master if you know what to kill. Gotta be buffed with Kinetic armor though.
HeadRoll
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:20 pm
#6
Some proffshions are very easy to master... TKM is one of them
Every combat oriented profession is easy to get in this game. With Buffs and decent armor you can solo over 90pct of the mobs in this game with ZERO DOWNTIME
Burr
Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:27 pm
#7
HeadRoll wrote:
Some proffshions are very easy to master... TKM is one of them
Every combat oriented profession is easy to get in this game. With Buffs and decent armor you can solo over 90pct of the mobs in this game with ZERO DOWNTIME
Exactly. The problem isn't the class is so easy to level, it's that ever class is easy to level with buffs. I went through the entire meditate line yesterday with a set of doctor buffs and some brandy. At no point was my downtime greater than a minute or so. Commando was even easier to power through. With no buffs no one would be powering through levels like this. Not that I want buffs reduced, they make the game fun for me. But you are looking at the wrong thing when saying that TKA is too easy.
HeadRoll
Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:11 am
#8
Exactly. The problem isn't the class is so easy to level, it's that ever class is easy to level with buffs. But you are looking at the wrong thing when saying that TKA is too easy.
Yep.This topic is likethe noobnerf cryers asking for TK to get nerfed. Stop looking at the guys title on his head. Everyone has 250 skill points to play with.
TKM alone is not that great, especially in pvp.
I was a Master Doc/TKM once. Yes it was great to buff yourself but in pvp is when you really notice the extra defenses on your template. Fight an equally buffed TKM who has taken up some extra defenses of the Fencer line or even Pistoleerand that original TKM/Doc combo is gonna get owned.
There are so many docs around now, finding a buff is not an issue anymore. Over 3 hours too? hehe
Cielago
Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:50 am
#9
HeadRoll wrote:
Some proffshions are very easy to master... TKM is one of them
Every combat oriented profession is easy to get in this game. With Buffs and decent armor you can solo over 90pct of the mobs in this game with ZERO DOWNTIME
Because you assume that every beginner can afford doc buff and a composit armor ? I don't think so.
It's easy IF you are not new.
HeadRoll
Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:11 am
#10
Because you assume that every beginner can afford doc buff and a composit armor ? I don't think so.
It's easy IF you are not new.
heh, tru dat. But when did this thread turn into a "how to make credits as a noob" post?
But let's assumethisis a thread about new players to SOE. Iassume you thinkthat Combat professions are not easier to go up the ranks and make money quicker as opposed to craftsman selling Cdef weapons?
MonkeyofDoom
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:32 am
#11
I'm guessing you're already a TK Master who wants to keep his toys to himself or a TK-hater who's been "owned" many times by a TKM.
Consider this - Unarmed I - IV is hell, especially compared to the other Brawler "noob" professions.
TK skills are no easier to get than any other skill. In fact, as a TK artist, you'll probably have MORE downtime than a ranged combateer, simply because of the pummelling you take during combat. Since moving to TK artist, I rarely have no wounds or BF, yet when I was working through Pistoleer, it was rare for me to have more than 3 or 4 wounds.
GarronDarkweaver
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:39 am
#12
However hard you make it to get, people will still get it in 2 days. To be perfectly honest, tk is the hardest combat proff barring bh and commando to get by far. The grind from unarmed 3 to novice tk takes soooo much longer than any other. I can master tk from novice to master in less time than it takes to do nov brawler to nov tk 
GarronDarkweaver
Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:44 am
#13
As for the arguement but you assume every new player can afford comp and buffs, how do you think we got our money to be able to do so ? we were all new once and we all faced the same grind. You dont think all the well off players just entered the game and received a 20 million cred dontation from the developers do you ? go out make some cash then start the grind if you cant afford the buffs. And why are people jerks who play the game more time of the day than you ? If someone practices golf all day do you not expect then to get better at it ? If someone wants to play all day leave them to it, they arnt jerks for doing it. Thats like saying tiger woods is an a** hole because he makes it harder for casual golfers to play because he practices all the time.
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