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Thread: Now why can't girls in SWG have these kind of clothes?? :)
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raz1337
Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:11 am
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http://www.anarchy-online.com/banners/playme_20020502/160600/160_600_girl_trial.jpg
paddington2003
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:49 am
#2
hehe do they really have those clothes in AO now? its just an ad so maybe its not in the game
donnah42
Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:12 am
#3
Hm, if SWG had a lot of "clothes" like that, I suspect that a lot of us actual chicks that play this game would get fed up pretty quickly. I will never understand why so many game companies don't understand that their audience includes more than teenage boys.
The blatant sleaze of many games is just a turnoff to many female gamers (not to mention a number of mature guys as well). I don't mind the current group of skimpy SWG outfits, because they're actually based on clothing shown in the movies. They're definately fitting for entertainers. But I fail to see how clothes that are basically underwear are appropriate in a fantasy game that claims to encourage actual roleplaying. A real female fighter wouldn't live long in nothing but a chainmail bikini.
That type of thing is just offensive to female gamers. Not because of the large amount of virtual skin showing, that part is silly, cheesy, and a little sad. The near-nudity in and of itself isn't that troublesome to me. But it's offensive because of the statement it makes, the "as game developers we don't care about what you think, we only cater to the wants of immature boys" attitude. If gaming companies took their female fans seriously, then nearly naked female characters with disgustingly unrealistic bodies would be limited to this weirdo subgenre instead of being so prevalent.
They're turning off a lot of young girls who would have otherwise gotten into gaming. They're slowly alienating those of us who got into gaming despite its rather sexist culture. And in multiplayer settings, they're encouraging sexualization of female toons, which often leads to female players being put in uncomfortable situations, and sometimes leads to actual in-game harassment.
Meh, didn't mean to make a little mini rant, but it's kind of a sore subject for me. I swear, the next game store clerk who asks me if the game I'm getting is a present for my boyfriend is getting punched in the face.
The blatant sleaze of many games is just a turnoff to many female gamers (not to mention a number of mature guys as well). I don't mind the current group of skimpy SWG outfits, because they're actually based on clothing shown in the movies. They're definately fitting for entertainers. But I fail to see how clothes that are basically underwear are appropriate in a fantasy game that claims to encourage actual roleplaying. A real female fighter wouldn't live long in nothing but a chainmail bikini.
That type of thing is just offensive to female gamers. Not because of the large amount of virtual skin showing, that part is silly, cheesy, and a little sad. The near-nudity in and of itself isn't that troublesome to me. But it's offensive because of the statement it makes, the "as game developers we don't care about what you think, we only cater to the wants of immature boys" attitude. If gaming companies took their female fans seriously, then nearly naked female characters with disgustingly unrealistic bodies would be limited to this weirdo subgenre instead of being so prevalent.
They're turning off a lot of young girls who would have otherwise gotten into gaming. They're slowly alienating those of us who got into gaming despite its rather sexist culture. And in multiplayer settings, they're encouraging sexualization of female toons, which often leads to female players being put in uncomfortable situations, and sometimes leads to actual in-game harassment.
Meh, didn't mean to make a little mini rant, but it's kind of a sore subject for me. I swear, the next game store clerk who asks me if the game I'm getting is a present for my boyfriend is getting punched in the face.
NancyJ
Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:38 am
#4
I find it offensive that you're trying to speak for all female gamers in your mini-rant.
I am female and I am a gamer, I am not a 'female gamer'. I am no different than any other gamer.
I have played anarchy online, and I've played a character that did missions in a metal bikini, its fun.
I like playing characters that look good.
The greatest part of anarchy online is being able to dress like the girl in the picture and not get harrassed or hassled or perved on.
What I find offensive is the need to niche market girls that play games and to treat them differently than boys.
I am female and I am a gamer, I am not a 'female gamer'. I am no different than any other gamer.
I have played anarchy online, and I've played a character that did missions in a metal bikini, its fun.
I like playing characters that look good.
The greatest part of anarchy online is being able to dress like the girl in the picture and not get harrassed or hassled or perved on.
What I find offensive is the need to niche market girls that play games and to treat them differently than boys.
LongHindLegs
Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:02 am
#5
hehe do they really have those clothes in AO now?
they've always had clothes like that. just cant craft them. Miiir fashions is the only one who can make them 
Milarella
Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:04 pm
#7
I remember when I first went into the character creation screen in DAoC (I've been playing video games since I was 3). I said, "Wow, her breasts aren't so big they'll cause her to fall over!". From that point on I had a lot of respect for Mythic and the fact that they understand that most people want realistic looking characters, not Fabio and Dolly. When making toons in AO and SWG, which have much more choices for sizes, I have yet to make a large chested character (I've only made females so far). I do have fun with some of the clothing options in AO. Please keep in mind that men can wear them, too. *shudders at the memories*
Srednii
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:07 pm
#9
oh I don't know... the exotic leotard and the revealing fleshwrap are kinda skimpy in their own right.
SorbonKissimer
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:09 pm
#10
donnah42 wrote:
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I will never understand why so many game companies don't understand that their audience includes more than teenage boys.
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It sells.
donnah42
Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:32 am
#11
NancyJ wrote:
I find it offensive that you're trying to speak for all female gamers in your mini-rant.
I am female and I am a gamer, I am not a 'female gamer'. I am no different than any other gamer.
I have played anarchy online, and I've played a character that did missions in a metal bikini, its fun.
I like playing characters that look good.
The greatest part of anarchy online is being able to dress like the girl in the picture and not get harrassed or hassled or perved on.
What I find offensive is the need to niche market girls that play games and to treat them differently than boys.
That's fine that you feel that way, and as I said, the offensive part to me wasn't really the clothing itself, it's the attitude that their whole market finds that kind of thing appealing. But my point wasn't to "niche market" girls. My point was that these games are already niche marketing themselves to oversexed teenage boys and young men. And I actually do know plenty of guys that are offended by the assumption that a hawt girl character will make them want to play a game.
In fact, if I was trying to pigeonhole all girl gamers, I wouldn't care about the more sexualized aspects of many games. Because I'd assume (like many game companies seem to) that the world's few girl gamers are only interested in things like The Sims or Zoo Tycoon.
I'm not trying to be Miss Voice of All Girl Gamers, but speaking for myself and my friends (including a lot of my guy friends, believe it or not), we are sick of it. And I doubt we're the only ones. If game companies ever start showing a little respect to their female customers, I think they'll be surprised at the number of sales they can get. Because guy gamers will still buy good games if they're not total T&A fests. So they'll still have their base and yet attract more females and more new gamers.
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