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Thread: Tailor Armorsmith idea for Alichai

GaiaMusashi
Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:02 am
#1

had this exact discussion with several friends tonight...


i like this idea





Esnaix -- Wanderhome
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Alciril
Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:07 am
#2

It's a good idea and I wouldn't mind seeing it. The big problem with it, however, is that people may expect tailors to go through the effort of matching entire sets of armor for free (or close to free).


If the devs wouldn't mind taking it one step further,I'd rather have tailors be given the ability to craft "dye kits" that can be used by customers to color their armor. The kits wouldbe one-time use and give the customer the ability to dye his or her own armor. The selection of colors would be equivalent to the tailoring experimentation skill of the tailor who crafted the kit. This would eliminate a lot of the menial work involved with having a set of armor traded to you, trying to guess or match the colors the customer wants, and having to trade it back to them.


I see dye kits as a win/win/win situation. Tailors will be able to play a part in making armor more visually appealing, armorsmiths won't feel pressured into becoming tailors, and customers will be able to choose the exact look they want.




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Psyko1469
Fri Aug 29, 2003 8:24 am
#3

Color is already tied to Tailoring Tech tree, and almost all Armorsmiths are filling Tech and Field II so they can make their own materials and have the full range of colors. Armorsmiths should be able to either make all their own components and limited color, or color it entirely and need components (like synth cloth and reinforced panels now). Notlimited color and need componentsas it is now.


If I could color everything on my own I wouldn't be wasting SP on Tailor as I want more combat skills so I can have some hunting fun occasionally. Almost every Armorsmith will agree. If I can't make black Composite without Tailor Tech IV, I'm going to get it and use 9 SP to get Field II and totally cut out the Tailor from the process.




SirPsyko
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donnah42
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:18 am
#4

There are enough armorsmiths that are resentful of tailors because they already need to buy our components. I know many folks I used to sell to have just trained up to field wear II themselves. Adding one more thing they had to buy would just make them grumble at us more. I already have armorsmiths begging me for free synth and reinforced clothschematics, I don't want them to start bothering me even more!



Kara Vasa
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Vandessa
Fri Aug 29, 2003 10:49 am
#5

Well color is not entirely tied to the tailoring tech tree. Why not do what they will eventualy get working with DE's (with luck) and have a paint kit to 'color' armor after the fact like you can (will)color customize droids. DE's get their own colors that do not seem to be influenced by the tailor tree. Armorsmiths should get the same benifits. And I don't see tailor/DE hybrids getting to make more colorful droids.



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Vaporizer
Fri Aug 29, 2003 12:17 pm
#6

I thought that this might be a great idea.I propose thatarmorsmithsshould not be ablecolor armor, buttheycould have a tailor color it after the fact. It would free up points from the Armorsmiths, and would give us a useful function for those who wear armor. What do you all think?



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Psyko1469
Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:12 pm
#7

I had no problem paying for crates, or even schematics now that I have a factory. The problem is that no one would sell them to me at a reasonable price, and then they dried up completely, so I was forced to make my own. $7500 for a schematic using my factory and my resources is ridiculous. I could see $2500, for synth cloth that's ~25% of the run, and you use no resources and no factory time.


Armorsmiths are bitter (yes I'm a bit pissed myself) that so much is tied into the Tailor tree that it basically forces us to be Tailor/Armorsmith to survive. Would you like it if your clothing colors were tied into Armorsmithing? I doubt it. Would you train those skills just so you could have the full color spectrum? You know you would when you get the first request for a bright red dancer outfit and couldn't make it.


Armor color should be exclusively for the Armorsmith. If you get an armor "paint kit", then there should also be a clothing "paint kit" that I can change the color of myshirts and jacketswith.


Themost practicalthing to do is to make color dependant on the minerals used and eliminate hue altogether. Use a green gemstone and it's green, red gemstone and it's red. Simple and no skill required. Combine gemstones in different amounts to make more colors. That could go to the "Miner" profession if the ever bring it back.




SirPsyko
Back from the dead?
Balance: To bring into or keep in equal or satisfying proportion or harmony.
So a new product goes beta, then gold. It's called gold because when the product reaches that status, the company is finally set to make a lot of money much more than was ever invested during development. - John C. Dvorak


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