Tailor Archive
Thread: Absurd BE clothing/tissue prices
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frightwig
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:23 am
#1
Maybe this is just on Kauri..
But I wanted to ask tailors how much they're paying for tissues, and how much they're selling their BE clothing for on their server. My master tailor specializes in combat related BE mod clothes (shirts, pants and jackets using RFP... camo, mask scent, defense, etc mods), and doing custom orders for regular clothing -- BE or normal.
I went to the bazaar today to find more tissues to restock my vendor with clothes and was shocked to see prices go up nearly 10 times what they were only a few weeks ago. Not just from one vendor, but from every BE tissue or tailor vendor I found.
Here's an example of what I saw today:
200000cr for a crate of 5 (five!) Tensile resist tissues. +16 melee/ranged defense.
100000cr for a +16 melee/ranged form fitting undershirt.
I know it varies on each server, but the components and the crafting effort required does not. This example wasn't from just one vendor, but from every BE vendor I found on a galaxy-wide vendor search.
I'm not sure if I should be angry at other tailors for jacking up prices, causing BE's to jack up theirs.. Or if it's a case of other tailors needing to raise their prices because these tissues have suddenly jumped in price.
I kind of assumed the difficulty to craft Tensile resist tissues post CU was the same as pre CU (When they were +4 melee defense, +19 stun resist at best). For about 3 weeks, at least, after these tissues came out, I was still finding full 25 crates for about 100k or so.
Is it the high demand maybe? Sure, I guess I could put 1 RFP into my shirt at a cost of 40k each.. and then jack the price up to 80-100k like others. But something seems wrong about this. I could sell the shirts for 50k minimum, and at least make a profit.. but the margin is so low, I don't know why I'd want to spend 1 million to make only 100k. Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is there something I'm missing? Or is it just my server?
But I wanted to ask tailors how much they're paying for tissues, and how much they're selling their BE clothing for on their server. My master tailor specializes in combat related BE mod clothes (shirts, pants and jackets using RFP... camo, mask scent, defense, etc mods), and doing custom orders for regular clothing -- BE or normal.
I went to the bazaar today to find more tissues to restock my vendor with clothes and was shocked to see prices go up nearly 10 times what they were only a few weeks ago. Not just from one vendor, but from every BE tissue or tailor vendor I found.
Here's an example of what I saw today:
200000cr for a crate of 5 (five!) Tensile resist tissues. +16 melee/ranged defense.
100000cr for a +16 melee/ranged form fitting undershirt.
I know it varies on each server, but the components and the crafting effort required does not. This example wasn't from just one vendor, but from every BE vendor I found on a galaxy-wide vendor search.
I'm not sure if I should be angry at other tailors for jacking up prices, causing BE's to jack up theirs.. Or if it's a case of other tailors needing to raise their prices because these tissues have suddenly jumped in price.
I kind of assumed the difficulty to craft Tensile resist tissues post CU was the same as pre CU (When they were +4 melee defense, +19 stun resist at best). For about 3 weeks, at least, after these tissues came out, I was still finding full 25 crates for about 100k or so.
Is it the high demand maybe? Sure, I guess I could put 1 RFP into my shirt at a cost of 40k each.. and then jack the price up to 80-100k like others. But something seems wrong about this. I could sell the shirts for 50k minimum, and at least make a profit.. but the margin is so low, I don't know why I'd want to spend 1 million to make only 100k. Am I looking at this the wrong way? Is there something I'm missing? Or is it just my server?
Shaina
Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:57 am
#3
on bria
I paid 75k for 25 +13 melee/ranged defense tissues in crate.
and 90k for a crate of 25 +16 dance/musician tissues.
I charge 25k per item of clothing generally. if i put 2 different tissues in, i charge 30-35k at most.
SrinKnorei
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:03 am
#4
eclipse. averaging 125c/crate of 25 tissues of +15 Melee/Ranged Defense
i sell my clothing to this formula
(no.of points in tissue) x 1000c + (5000 x #RFP)
so a +15 shirt is 20k if it takes only 1 RFP. sometimes i mark up or down depending on the demand and market.
i sell my clothing to this formula
(no.of points in tissue) x 1000c + (5000 x #RFP)
so a +15 shirt is 20k if it takes only 1 RFP. sometimes i mark up or down depending on the demand and market.
-oracle-
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:15 am
#5
On Shadowfire it can be mixed, but typically the BE I buy from sells crates of tensile tissues (25) for 100k. Other tissues in crated of 25 are usually 45k. Not to bad in my eyes, comparative to other BE vendors on SF. 
ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:29 am
#6
Ok, let's be real clear here... he's talking specifically about +16/+16 tensile resistance. Not +13, not +15, not a different tissue, not a pre-cu tensile resistance. There is a BIG difference (in the difficulty in making said tissue). If anyone is able to buy +16/+16 tensile in quantity for under 150k/crate my best advice to you us: buy the guy out immediately, because you are getting an absolute steal.
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 06-01-2005 11:32 AM
TheNola
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:31 am
#7
Frightwig, I think it's just your server.
On the Lowca server, a crate of 5 (melee/ranged defense 15's) would cost about 25K.
The prices you've mentioned are outrageously hideous. Good luck.
Message Edited by TheNola on 06-01-2005 02:33 PM
frightwig
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:46 am
#8
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Ok, let's be real clear here... he's talking specifically about +16/+16 tensile resistance. Not +13, not +15, not a different tissue, not a pre-cu tensile resistance. There is a BIG difference (in the difficulty in making said tissue). If anyone is able to buy +16/+16 tensile in quantity for under 150k/crate my best advice to you us: buy the guy out immediately, because you are getting an absolute steal.
Yep, just the tensile resist tissues (melee/ranged defense)
Still, before the CU, 100k was about average (when it was + melee/stun def) on my server. I thought it might have something to do with demand, but the jump in price was huge.
I posted on the BE forum, though, and apparently Tensile Resist now requires milk. Someone quoted that 200k would be a fair price for 25, and that does seem reasonable... maybe more.
But for a crate of 5 at 200k? That was my main concern.. everyone was dividing them into crates of 5 now, instead of a full 25. To clarify, that's 1 million credits for a full crate of 25... 40k per tissue. A form fitting undershirt would have to be sold at 40k minimum to break even.
I could buy them, and mark up the price on my shirts.. but I may just take a break from selling these tissues until the demand dies down or the price lowers -- if at all.
Shaina
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:55 am
#9
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Ok, let's be real clear here... he's talking specifically about +16/+16 tensile resistance. Not +13, not +15, not a different tissue, not a pre-cu tensile resistance. There is a BIG difference (in the difficulty in making said tissue). If anyone is able to buy +16/+16 tensile in quantity for under 150k/crate my best advice to you us: buy the guy out immediately, because you are getting an absolute steal.
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 06-01-2005 11:32 AM
If that is the case, the +16's on bria that i've seen are 125k a crate of 25.
Gyopi
Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:58 am
#10
ArthurDentOnBria wrote:
Ok, let's be real clear here... he's talking specifically about +16/+16 tensile resistance. Not +13, not +15, not a different tissue, not a pre-cu tensile resistance. There is a BIG difference (in the difficulty in making said tissue). If anyone is able to buy +16/+16 tensile in quantity for under 150k/crate my best advice to you us: buy the guy out immediately, because you are getting an absolute steal.
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 06-01-2005 11:32 AM
Everything you say is true, but this is one of the tissues that will be very server dependent for awhile. Most servers have not had a good spawn of milk since the CU, when milk became much easier to get. +16 tissues will be using very rare pre-cu milk.
Dasha1121
Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:02 pm
#11
frightwig
I think I use thesame vendor as you do and truth be told on Kuari, she is proabably the only BE vendor that stocks regularly with tensil resistence. I know of one other BE that tries to get me to buy from him but thats about it. I think our galaxy is in short supply of MBE and they (if i rember correctly) Master BE's are the only onse who can make tensile resistence.
ItemCreator
Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:11 pm
#12
On Infinity one BE is selling the +16 tissues for either 100k or 200k EACH (I can't remember which). They gave me some to see how they would sell and people were buying formfitting undershirts (in black of course) for 500k each without a complaint.
Luckily I found someone who could make me the +16'd for 225k a crate and someone else who made me an entire run of +15's for 100k a crate.
So I'm now doing +15 shirts for 45k and +16 shirts for 65k and I'm still having trouble keeping them on my vendor! I had a problem with a reseller, even though I have *Kelsaka* on every item, so I'm having to keep prices up otherwise I lose all my stock in one go.
Luckily I found someone who could make me the +16'd for 225k a crate and someone else who made me an entire run of +15's for 100k a crate.
So I'm now doing +15 shirts for 45k and +16 shirts for 65k and I'm still having trouble keeping them on my vendor! I had a problem with a reseller, even though I have *Kelsaka* on every item, so I'm having to keep prices up otherwise I lose all my stock in one go.
g0nzo
Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:47 pm
#13
I'd put how much i'm paying for tissues/selling them, but i'd probably get lynched.
(It's very much less, even for the +16.
)
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