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Thread: Please take a look at my Catalogue

Fashionable
Sun Feb 01, 2004 3:01 pm
#1

Good evening, fellow Tailors!


Ive just spent 30+ hours on my new catalogue, and I cant belive Im not done yet eeep... But anyways, I could use some feedback from other tailors.


Im specifically looking for info on:

* How do you rate the functionality? Anything not working so good?

* Any important stats Ive missed?

* Bugs (state your browser, os, resolution and screen" if anything looks wrong.


Important: The site must be viewed in 1024 x 768, and Ive used frames:


http://www.studiosalome.net


Hugs,

Jeany



Jeany Salome's
TailoringuExquisiteuTailoring
www.studiosalome.net


Aidace
Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:15 pm
#2

I use mozilla and all I get is the index page. Not sure if something is broken or if the site just doens't like my browser. The index page is pretty though



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Sunrunner
Fashionable
Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:21 pm
#3

Ive been working on the indexpage for the last 40 minutes, so that might explain why it didnt work? I hope it works now.


And thanks



Jeany Salome's
TailoringuExquisiteuTailoring
www.studiosalome.net


Fashionable
Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:38 pm
#4

Are you getting into the site now?



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www.studiosalome.net


Superfurryanimal
Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:46 pm
#5

i just got in. it looks great.
RandDarkstar
Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:05 pm
#6

I just browsed through it, and I think it's fantastic!! It's beautiful, and easy to navigate. Once it's finished, it will be one of the best out there.



Jame'thiel Dreamweaver
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Dite
Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:38 pm
#7

It looks great, I only have one suggestion. Instead of using the techinal term for the cloths, I would use the slang terms, i.e. Myoflex=entertainers, Bio-sensors=medic etc.


For the most part, shoppers have little understanding about tissues despite most tailorsattempts tofully educate themand even less when it comes to the names that BE's and Tailors know them by








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donnah42
Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:13 am
#8

Tiny bits of constructive criticism (though feel free to ignore me, I'm a little picky because I'm a web designer). You did a great job and it obviously took a lot of hard work putting this together!


  • I'm using 1024 X 768 in the newest version of Mozilla Firebird, and the "item detail" section of the cataloge seems to be cutting both the top and the bottom of the box image around the item off.
  • The "click here for more information" link on the intro page doesn't seem to work for me. It looks like that's an image-swapping script?
  • The main thing I'd suggest is to use alt-text on all the images. When you put in alt-text code, it makes whatever words you enter as the alt-text display as a tooltip when the user's mouse hovers over that image. The main benefit to using it on your site would be that it will help navigation. That way instead of guessing what the buttons at the bottom meant, a person could hover their mouse over them and after a second see "home" or "shop info" or whatever you choose to call those sections of the site.
  • The images look great. If I was you I may have picked a less "busy" background, but this is just because as a catalogue site, you want all the attention focused on the clothes and not on how pretty everything else is.
  • I'm really against things that are specifically designed for a certain resolution. That obviously doesn't matter as much for a site like this, but it's really just an important thing to keep in mind if you want to make lots of other sites (especially ones for businesses).
  • This is a pretty good use of frames, but in general frames are something most of us try to really avoid these days. They make it hard for search engines to direct people to your site, they also make it hard for anyone to link to a page within the site other than the main page.

Good job, and be sure and let us know when it's completely finished!



Kara Vasa
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Fashionable
Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:20 pm
#9


Thank you all for much appreciated feedback! The site is still in progress, and its pretty much a "learn as you go" project.


Donnah47 wrote:



I'm using 1024 X 768 in the newest version of Mozilla Firebird, and the "item detail" section of the cataloge seems to be cutting both the top and the bottom of the box image around the item off.



Do you have a screenie of this? Im not quite sure what you mean.




The "click here for more information" link on the intro page doesn't seem to work for me. It looks like that's an image-swapping script?


Yes, its an integrated feature of Frontpage, which is the program I've used for the html.


The main thing I'd suggest is to use alt-text on all the images. When you put in alt-text code, it makes whatever words you enter as the alt-text display as a tooltip when the user's mouse hovers over that image. The main benefit to using it on your site would be that it will help navigation. That way instead of guessing what the buttons at the bottom meant, a person could hover their mouse over them and after a second see "home" or "shop info" or whatever you choose to call those sections of the site.


Can you please explain more about alt-text on images? I've been looking all over the different options in Frontpage, but I havent found any, and I dont know the html code to punch it in manually.


The images look great. If I was you I may have picked a less "busy" background, but this is just because as a catalogue site, you want all the attention focused on the clothes and not on how pretty everything else is.


Im a busy person, so it fits my style Besides, because Ive made the graphics mostly transparent, Ive gotten myself into a bit of a problem. Its extremely hard to make a perfect, transparent copy of the original images. Almost on every transparent gif Ive made, there are a few glitches where the background shines through where it shouldnt. On some its fixable, but on the whole, its too much work (approx. 15-30 mins work from start to finish on each pic). Right now Im desperately trying to finish the site and get it functional. The facelift will come after Ive made the face, or so to speak hehe..Ive found that the background helps disguise them. Its not why I picked it, but its a nice bi-effect. A white or solid background will easily make the glitches look worse. Its not impossible. Maybe later.


I'm really against things that are specifically designed for a certain resolution. That obviously doesn't matter as much for a site like this, but it's really just an important thing to keep in mind if you want to make lots of other sites (especially ones for businesses).


Well its all good, cause Im not planning on going into web design Its the best I could do with the knowledge I currently posess.


This is a pretty good use of frames, but in general frames are something most of us try to really avoid these days. They make it hard for search engines to direct people to your site, they also make it hard for anyone to link to a page within the site other than the main page.


Yes some good points here, especially the one regarding linking. I dont know what to do about that though..



Thank you all for comments ! I appreciate it!



Hugs






Jeany Salome's
TailoringuExquisiteuTailoring
www.studiosalome.net


ShortStuff
Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:43 pm
#10

some info on alt text:


http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/objects.html#h-13.8


http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol6/html_no1.htm


example:

<img src="cafeteria.jpg" height="200" width="200" alt="UAHC campers enjoy a meal in the camp cafeteria">





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donnah42
Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:48 pm
#11

Okay, made some screenshots of how the site looks to me in both Explorer and Firebird.

Site in Firebird (my main browser)
Site in Internet Explorer (which I only ever use for testing

The images are resized and not saved at best quality for faster download, but you can see how the window with the clothing images looks like it has the top and bottom parts cut off. I think it has something to do with the frames.

I'm not sure what to tell you about the alt text, I always either code by hand or use dreamweaver so I'm not quite sure how to get alt text into FrontPage. As someone who started with HTML, FrontPage actually seems harder and more complicated than just coding it out! I'm not sure how to do it in their interface, but if you can edit the actual HTML, this page shows you where to put the alt part in and how it's formatted. Basically, "alt" an attribute that goes inside each "img" tag and gives the image a name that's displayed if the person viewing the site hovers their mouse over the image.

I was looking at the code and couldn't find a reason why that image swap script shouldn't be working. Depending on what image you want to swap into that space, you could just make a seperate page with the image and then just use the image as a straight link to that new page though. Just an extra idea.

Good luck!



Kara Vasa
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Radiant Master Tailor
Mayor of Barsoom, Rori
Fashionable
Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:21 pm
#12

Thank you people I'll implement the alt text asap.


On the issue of cut off images: Have you tried viewing the page in full window? I noticed that this was not the case on both your screenies. Im sorry to say it, but because of the complicated nature of this site (getting too complicated for me lol), you need to view it in full window. If that doesnt help, then Houston - we have a problem..


Thanks again!



Jeany Salome's
TailoringuExquisiteuTailoring
www.studiosalome.net


donnah42
Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:37 pm
#13

I actually hadn't viewed it in full screen mode (that's not the way I browse so it never even occurs to me to maximize the screen), but I did it just now and still got the edges of the images cut off. It wasn't quite as bad but was still very noticable.

I suspect it has something to do with the frames, but since I haven't really used frames in years I'm not familiar enough with them to guess at why it's doing that.



Kara Vasa
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Radiant Master Tailor
Mayor of Barsoom, Rori
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