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Thread: ONE FURIOUS MASTER TAILOR

Stellarchik
Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:34 am
#1

This morning something was brought to my attention as I was ina shop close to my main shop. While browsing a personal vendor in a players shop I realized that 4 items of clothing that had my shop tag on them were listed for sale. Upon a closer look I realized who the person was that had put these items up for sale. It was a customer of mine that periodically brings me clothing enhancements and has me make shirts and pants with them. I never thought anything of it until today. He is selling those items for 250k. I AM FURIOUS! First of all...they were 2 muscle shirts and 2 pairs of stripped slacks which isnt worth 250k certainly. Its not the INSANE price that is upsetting. Its that someone who has NO RIGHT exploited my PROFESSION and decided to make a nice profit off my abilities and my name. I am highly offended that someone has done this and wish to warn all master tailors and even novice tailors on valcyn....DO NOT allow this person to get enhancements made. This needs to stop. Its not about money...as a master tailor I certainly dont struggle with that. I just dont want my name being used like that or my profession being used like that to gain someone else a profit. Thats not right at all. I certainly have banned him from my shop and will NEVER do business with him again. I feel that if someone purchases something they should be honest and atleast ask. Anyways...the guys name is carg and though he is a nice person I dont appreciate what hes done to make himself a living. Get some profession and stop mooching off the work of others!


Liriel Baenre - Master Tailor,Valcyn




Liriel Baenre - Master Tailor, Master Dancer
Loriel Saint - Master Commando, Chik Extrodinare
"If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid seeing yourself in the mirror because I bet that's what REALLY throws you into a panic." - Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy
Gyopi
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:50 am
#2

If he is a professional merchant, that is what he is *supposed* to do, but he should at least tell you that he is buying for resale. I know that it is not realistic (after all, people buy things to put up on Ebay all the time without telling), but I think it is common courtisy.




Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
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Stellarchik
Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:05 am
#3

Momoko I agree with you 100%. He is not a merchant. He is an artisan and this is what he does for a living. His shop is full of weapons, armor, clothing and various other items that he has purchased in bulk and resold at his shop for well over market price. Its just rude to do this and advertise this as your business without the permission of those who worked to make those items. Its not right.



Liriel Baenre -Master Tailor, valcyn




Liriel Baenre - Master Tailor, Master Dancer
Loriel Saint - Master Commando, Chik Extrodinare
"If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid seeing yourself in the mirror because I bet that's what REALLY throws you into a panic." - Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy
Tigershark34
Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:38 pm
#4

It sucks thats for sure but that's capitolism. Ban the person from your store.




Sphyrna Mokarran
TKA / Shock Trooper / Pistoleer / Smuggler
Galeocerdo Cuvier
Master Tailor / Master Artisan / Armorsmith / Merchant

Stellarchik
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:04 pm
#5

No i agree with your post on resellers being good for us to a certain extent..but this guy was not just a reseller...it was way out of hand. My clothing isnt underpriced so what he is doing is simply exploiting my effort and making a ton of profit. Its just that I hate that my name went on that item because when someone buys it and they want more or they send friends to me because it has my name on it and I sell that same item for 240k lower that what the referee got it for..dont you think hes gonna come back and ask me why he paid 240k more that what his friend just did? most people dont remember what shop they bought what in which is why we label our clothing...so that poses a problem for me I think.


Oh and to answer the question they werent attachements but bio enhancements.




Liriel Baenre - Master Tailor, Master Dancer
Loriel Saint - Master Commando, Chik Extrodinare
"If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid seeing yourself in the mirror because I bet that's what REALLY throws you into a panic." - Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy
Ofock
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:29 pm
#6

Perhaps you could add the price to the name of the product? I've seen some tailors who do that. Their clothes will be named something like "Red BE Muscle Shirt by Fred 3000cr". It's not very pretty or elegant but it's a possible solution.


Stellarchik
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:34 pm
#7

excellent idea. thanks! I think in the future I will work only with my master BE for the enhancements and adjust my pricings around what the ehancements that Im buying are worth plus what the clothing normally sells for and not allow people to provide their own enhancements as thats not a reasonable way to adjust pricings for us tailors as we have no idea what those enhancements were purchased for. Guess thats the way Ill do it in the future to save me this! Thanks!



Liriel Baenre - Master Tailor, Master Dancer
Loriel Saint - Master Commando, Chik Extrodinare
"If you ever catch on fire, try to avoid seeing yourself in the mirror because I bet that's what REALLY throws you into a panic." - Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy
ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:39 pm
#8

Surely you can see the problem with the below statement. If your clothing isn't underpriced, than why is someone able to so easily resell it for "a ton of profit"? Those two things both can't be true. Either your clothingIS underpriced, or he'snot able to sell it for a ton of profit.


And as far as explaining the price differences to customers. Sheesh, explaining to a customer why you charge less is a WHOLE lot easier than explaining why you charge more, lol. Ask him whyhe chose to buy from that particular buyer rather than you.






Stellarchik wrote:



No i agree with your post on resellers being good for us to a certain extent..but this guy was not just a reseller...it was way out of hand. My clothing isnt underpriced so what he is doing is simply exploiting my effort and making a ton of profit.







ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Elui
Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:39 pm
#9

your price is guarantedd - as he has bought the stuff from you. He is the one taking the risk - that the goods will sell at the appalling high price and as such he takes the reward if he manages to sell the stuff.


I have 2 master tailors and couldnt give 2 hoots if this happend to me. I got the price i wanted in cash GUARANTEED - no risk - no further maintenace fees, no vendor bugs, etc etc - let them try and flog clothes to others at higher prices.



If i noticed this happening I would just review my own prices and see if i was charging an appropriate amount but i make plenty to keep me going so unless i was really underscharging would prolly stick with my normal price and far less hassle.






Elui Toliss
Master Tailor ~ Farstar
City of Aartan Ridge ~ Tatooine 2805,5140
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Jaela
Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:32 pm
#10

Sounds like he thinks he knows the market price better than you,,,but if it sits on his vendor ,,maybe not,,if it sells quickly,,maybe he does,,


Frankly I almost never ask when someone buys something what they plan to do with it,,,I dont really care,,so,,a main issue for me is ,,,Did you ask him how he planned to use the items,,that to me would have prevented any issues developing later,,

NJ62
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:16 pm
#11

When it's a pain is when people want to return things to you - or complain about price to you - when you didn't even know your item was being resold in the first place. Or they say something like "i bought your xx with the enhancement yy and do 'u' have zz." And you have to explain that you don't have access to cloths on a regular basis, or don't sell bioengineered clothes, at which point the person says "but *I* have this item from you, blah blah" as if you're going to say "you're right, I do make bioengineered clothes, what was I thinking, come on by." Or they think you got the money, and suddenly are morally offended that you have no idea who they are after they just spent 500k in "your" shop last night on your stuff.


On an unrelated note it annoys me when someone insists that I have a certain schematic because he got it as a drop/noob clothing /saw npc wearing it.


Digression over. In conclusion, I would be appalled if someone sold my stuff and that exposed me to more tell hell than I already have.




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ArthurDentOnBria
Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:37 pm
#12

I agree, and that is why I keep my name off the clothing I sell. Yes, it shows up in the "examine", but I don't beat people over the head with it I get enough tells and assorted business without having to worry about such things.




NJ62 wrote:

Digression over. In conclusion, I would be appalled if someone sold my stuff and that exposed me to more tell hell than I already have.









ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Bumbie
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:41 pm
#13

There is one reseller I HATE on my server who keeps on buying every tailor's clothes and sell them for more on the baazaar. Grrr I wish I could shoot this guy but he's a fellow Imperial. But all i can do is ban him from my shop.
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