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I don't want to start a battle of the sexesbut I have noticed that guys take 4 times as long to pick an outfit than us girls do and usually spend 4 times less. Now, I know alot of the schematics don'thavealotof choices compared to girls but guys seem to try on 5 different outfits only to go back to a solid black muscle t shirt, casual pants and gunman's duster. Not to mention, the standard, 'make me look cool' comment is 95% guys.What are your experiences on this?

This hasn't been my experience, but then again, I've been pretty lucky so far with the quality of my clientele.

The main difference I've noticed is that my male customers want to see every available option (and those who don't want black want to see at least 4-5 other colors) before they make a decision. While I'm showing the various things off to women, they tend to see one thing that catches their eye and that's it, they know what they want. Obviously that's not true with everyone, but I do seem to spend more time working with the guys.

Nah the reason why is that RPing males playing females and rl females take notice of what the clothes are they like. They ask people who are wearing whatever they like, hey what is that? They come prepared with I want me a bare butt flashing exotic leotard in black please. So women just know the names of the clothing and the styles before hand. I have an entertainer friend who knows the entire line of clothing what is in what box and I don't even know that.

Men are a pain, period (and I am one, so I know).

In the Development forum, Holo revealed an interesting fact; the ages of women in MMORPGs tend to follow a relatively even distribution, while those of men cluster in the late teens and early 20's. So when you're dealing with a male (whether he's using a male or female avatar), on average you're dealing with a younger player.

Note that phrase "on average". It's the exceptions to the rule that make things fun and interesting.

My experience has been the same as Javrie's, the women usually know the schematic name of the outfit they want or at least can give a good description of it.

With men, they tend to have a general idea and it just takes more questions on my part. If someone comes in and says "I want a Blue jacket", I start asking a series of questions.

Do you want the jacket open or closed in front? What length do you want it? Combat style or dressier? Navy blue or crayon blue? and so on...

It generally does take longer with male customers.

Another bit that I found interesting from Holo's statements (if I remember correctly) is that males-playing-females *also* tend to be older than the average. So the odds are that the average female character - regardless of who's sitting behind the keyboard - will probably be more mature than the average male character.

The people that I find to be the biggest pain to deal with are the ones who can't make a coherent sentence. Whether English is not their primary language, or they're 12, or they're just brain-dead, these people give me a huge headache. How am I supposed to respond when someone says "give me set cloth", "what cloth can I you make", or"make me reinforced cloth" (do they want clothes, or a crate of reinforced fiberplast panels?). When it takes me longer to figure out what they're trying to say than it takes to make it, I just want to say "go away, talk to someone else." I know this probably makes me a horrible person, and a bigot to boot, but it's just the way I feel.

"With men, they tend to have a general idea and it just takes more questions on my part."

In some ways (especially if the customer is open-minded), this can actually be more fun than the customer who knows exactly what she wants. If the customer's not an adolescent male with ADD who's hyped up on Jolt cola, anyhow.... If you're starting from "make me look good," it does take longer than "make me x, y, and z items in this specific color combination," but can be pretty rewarding too.

On Radiant there's a HUGE Spanish population, so English is a second language for many players. In these cases it's very helpful to have a good display available for picking out items. Just point and say 'yes' or 'no'.

I've also noticed that most Spanish speakers who honestly try to communicate in English often A) apologize sweetly for their English whichreally isn't hard to understand and B) speak better English than some d00ds.

And the biggest thing I think of when I'm making a ribbed shirt in the 30th color the guy wants to see is that after I spend this time with him, there's a good chance I'll be seeing all his buddies too. Good word of mouth is what it's all about. Mind you, it is nice having that 15k cred revealing fleshwrap sale without anything more than "I'd like a white revealing fleshwrap." Oh well. If you don't like spending the time, cater only to females and refer the males to someone else. (I'll take their creds)

Biggest difference I've noticed between the trends is that women either:

1)Come in knowning exactly what they want, or can usually describe it, and are fairly easy to satisfy.

2)Come in not really interested in buying but rather happy to simply browse and come back another time to place an order. (window shopping)

3)Not know what they want, come in, look around, ask a few questions and place an specific order.

Guys on the other hand

1) Are very general. I need pants, gloves, shirt, and what type really doesn't matter too much (so they say). These guys generally just like black and will be on their merry way quickly enough.

2) Other guyssay, "make me a pimp outfit" and leave it up to you to choose what to make. Since they really don't know what they want they are more apt to return an item cause they don't like it, or request you make something else. These are my least fav customers, cause they are both picky and indicisive.

3)Tend to come in looking for one thing, have you make it, are happy, get ready to leave, then decide they need something else, are happy, think of a 3rd/4th thing after 5 min, and after 3-4 itterations either leave without saying thank you, or gush and tell all his friends which gets you 3-4 more orders of the *exact* same outfit. These guys aren't bad to deal with but are time consuming.

The biggest difference I've found between male and female characters is that women are much better about being told that orders can't be made immediately, or I'm not open for business. They are quite cool about coming back later for something. Guys tend to be alot more insistant, "but i just want a pair of pants" (Which WILL turn into a whole outfit), or they pull the "fine i'll go find someone else to give my business to", like that supposed to insult me.

Overall the differences between the two aren't that big of a deal, but these are just some of the more amusing trends i've found. I certainly have had women who are pushy and men who are laid back yet know what they want.... I wonder if any of them are single. hehehe

-Eva Olana

Kaadara master tailor, Bria

I have never had a rude woman customer and in fact I have had women place an order with me scheduled for when I actually get the skill to make it.

60% of my male customers have been rude in some way and most haven't a clue about what clothes exist.

Make me look cool= casual pants, simple shirt, casual jacket, 5000cr please, oh that's too much you should try <enter friendly tailor rival here>, they make really cheap but cool stuff.