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Thread: need tailor and chef for business partner

ZOGMrBill
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:09 am
#1

I have built up a wookiee client base and am looking for someone to supply me with wookiee clothes. you make them, I sell them and tip you for half the sale. And No, i want sham you on your commission. All my previous partners have quit or i could give you references. While its true you make less profit by splitting with me, if history is any judge you will make it up in volume because when I am well stocked I sold a lot of wookiee clothes, sometimes 100k per day, tho that wasnt the norm.


email me in game


the same offer holds for chefs that want to sell Mind, Focus or Willpower related buffs. I sell some of my own, but I dont have the skillz for the leet stuff.






ZOGNabarroth

flurry server
ZOG's rifleman and wookiee supplies
bowcasters, Mind buffs, wookiee clothes and rifles
located next to shuttleport in Antarian City, Dantooine
Vendor Now open!
ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:22 am
#2

You really need to give a server mate. And 50% commission? I personally think that's outrageous.



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
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RandDarkstar
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:26 am
#3

50% wow. So for our work, and your vendor sitting there doing nothing, you want HALF??? HAHAHA



Jame'thiel Dreamweaver
Master Tailor, Colonel - Rebel Alliance, Gorath Server

picklesSW
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:30 am
#4

I find Wookiee clothing is already a pain in the butt with the hide requirements and the relatively low sales cost and profit margin compared to some of the other clothing. Asking a tailor to take on all the risk (they don't get paid until it sells off the vendor) AND asking them to give away 50% of their gross (not even profit, mind you)...

Good luck finding one dumb enough.

- J




ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:38 am
#5

Of course that's assuming that tailors even have 50% profit margin on their clothing to begin with! aye aye aye.



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


ShortStuff
Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:17 am
#6

Wow, the only thing I go 50/50 on is with my friend the BE. I help get ingrediants, she makes the Tissues, I make the clothes and sell them then we split the profits. It works because we split the work. But you want a tailor to do all the work in tracking down the hide and making the clothes and you want half of it just for placing it on a vendor? HAHA




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donnah42
Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:25 am
#7

For one thing, if you really want to buy and sell, just buy it up front from the tailor, and ask for a volume discount. If you were really making that kind of money off your vendor before, you should definately have that kind of start up money. That way instead of a nearly insulting 50/50 split, you can buy at what the tailor thinks is a decent profit margin for them and then mark the clothes up to a decent profit margin for you.

It's incredibly risky for a tailor to just give you a ton of stock and hope you'll tip them a little at a time when you get the money. Even if they were 100% sure that you weren't trying to scam them, it's still a silly deal from a tailor perspective. Wook clothes take a lot of hide, which can be very expensive to get. So where is the benefit for the tailor in using up that hide making things for you that they hope you'll be able to sell, when they could be using it to make things to put on their own vendors? The only real benefit this deal would have for them is if you buy the pieces up front.

Oh, and the best way to find someone to do business with on your server is actually to use your server's trade board...



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ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:38 am
#8






donnah42 wrote:
For one thing, if you really want to buy and sell, just buy it up front from the tailor, and ask for a volume discount.




This is what I did when I was running a mall, and it worked very very well. I supplied the building, the vendors, dealt with all customers, tracked the sales, and did all the market research, and it was high volume since we were on the map and in one of the best locations you could possibly be in, in the game. For that, my suppliers filled myorders at around a 10% discount to their prices, and I marked it up an additional 10% or sofor a 20% profit. Money adds up very fast when doing that and of course you take advantage of the synergy between different product offerings. My suppliers seemed to really like this arrangement and it worked out great for me as well.




ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


ZOGMrBill
Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:11 pm
#9

i really dont give a **edit** what your opinion is on my commission. while you have theories about what wont work, i had exactly this deal with 2 previous master tailors and we both made lots of money. I spend a lot more time developing a client base than what it took my tailor to make them and I charge higher than avg prices. since i sell bowcasters and do Image deisgn and sell rifleman buffs, i get a lot of wookiee business. at least i did before i quit the game for awhile.


so as not to confuse you what i asked for is someone that WANTS to do it, not someone that DOESNT.


it is ignorant for you to tell me what my margin is when you dont know what i charge. I saw wookiee stuff selling for 1/5 what i sold it for and im sure i sold more than they did cause i would see the same stuff on thier vendor that was there the week before.


btw, Nike doesnt make their own shoes and McDonalds does not own 1 single food processing plant, what they do is market and distribute. its the same concept so zip it. except they get probably an 80/20 split for themselves.





ZOGNabarroth

flurry server
ZOG's rifleman and wookiee supplies
bowcasters, Mind buffs, wookiee clothes and rifles
located next to shuttleport in Antarian City, Dantooine
Vendor Now open!
picklesSW
Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:15 pm
#10

Hey, it's a public discussion forum. People toss their opinion in on whatever is posted. If you'd rather not hear opinions, you'd have better luck on your server's trade forum or maybe by contacting tailors directly in game and asking them if they're interested in what you have to offer.

- J




ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:22 pm
#11

Zog,


Quit crying. If your business is so goodwhy do you need a post like this to get partners? You posted this on the tailor forum, so expect replies. And we're simply telling those tailors that might consider such a deal, that they can do a WHOLE lot better than this.


The least you can do is see the humor in your post and give it a new title: "greedy businessman seeks clueless chefs and tailors to take advantage of"


Oh, and McDonalds and Nike don't sell on consignment, rofl, get a clue.




ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Sergia
Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:28 pm
#12

My condolences to whomever would fall for such a deal.

And just curious...explain to us tailors what your "market research" consists of...

Thx

Sergia



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RandDarkstar
Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:09 am
#13

Let's start with your business model.... make the tailors create the stuff (so it's their name on it) but sell at outrageously inflated prices - you said a 500% markup compared to others. You don't care how unfair this is to your market or your supplier, and you want us to swallow it and say yum yum,, this is sooo good.


What the market will bear, and what is fair are 2 very different things. Bleed the market hard, and you hurt everyone else. Eventually it rebounds. The player economy has certain limitations that are based on customer ability to compare. If you have a monopoly (by appearance or fact) then you can charge any price you want. But it's still a monopoly and unethical business practice.


You clearly state though, that you don't care. You only want the money. I find you a horrible example of some of the players I have seen. I imagine that the tailors and chefs that you take advantage of realized how poor your system was and quit to escape your contract.


Sorry. MacDonalds OWNS cattle ranches around the globe. They are one of the prime causes of deforestation in the amazon due to overfarming of pasture lands needed for their beef. Why would they have another company be their supplier? It means they are beholden to them for ALL their beef. The term All-Beef is the company name that supplies them with their patties. (It does not imply that it actually is all beef, anyone that believes that has never made a hamburger themselves!!!)


Nike DOES make their own shoes. They just find a place they can set up cheap labour costs and plant a factory there. That factory does not pick and choose who they make shoes for.




Jame'thiel Dreamweaver
Master Tailor, Colonel - Rebel Alliance, Gorath Server

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