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Thread: Why do people insist on speading rumors?(Currently about CH Tissues)

Dite
Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:36 am
#1

I have a few orders for CH enhanced clothing and have sent tells to each customer explaining that if they wait until after the next patch, I can make them more interesting clothes since wasting 50 milk on schematics won't be a huge deal that it is. Plus the clothing willcost a lot less. It's up to them.


Most people thanked me and told me they would wait, but I had one customer who told me he didn't want to risk it, since they were going to pull CH tissues with the next publish.


Me: What?


Customer: Yeah, since the milk will be more common, the CH nerf won't matter.


Me: What do you think CH tissues do?


Customer:I can pull a higher level creature out.


Me: No, it helps to taming vicious and wild creatures. It doesn't make it so you can pull a creature that you wouldn't normally be able to at 1001, it just means that you have a better chance of taming a creature that you might not of had a chance to before.


Customer: Well I don't want to risk it.


Me: Alright. I'll have Splintt make up the tissues and make the clothes for you, but please don't say I didn't warn you.


For Non-Tailors reading these forums, this is why tailors get frustrated in dealing with customers, they think they know all about tailoring when they weren't the ones who spent the time researching and discussing things. Most Master Tailors know their stuff. They are competent, knowledable and above all, reputable. They won't seell you Medicine Use Medic clothing without letting you know that Medicine Use has been removed from the game. They try to explain that you don't need anything over +25 to a skill and will not encourage you to purchase an outfit with +100 enhancements just for the quick buck.


If you don't know, don't assume. And if you assume, don't tell others about your assumptions, they are probably wrong and just make our job as tailors more difficult.







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ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:29 am
#2

Well, in this one case this "rumor" is probably part of the reason people are willing to pay so much for those tissues. I mean really, how hard can it be to figure out what these do? There is a skill mod that CH has, it increases that skill mod of the exact same name. It's written right on the tissue! I think it says a lot about the CH community that they can't figure that out. It's not like you see scouts claiming that their masked/scent cammo clothing helps them with terrain navigation, rofl.



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Wire3k
Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:54 pm
#3

Actually - in SOME cases - it does let them pull out and use a critter they might not necessarily be able to otherwise - but it's not really meant for that, it's just a side effect.


Customer came in with some milk (I've only made 4 or 5 of these - and the customer ALWAYS had the milk) and once we got her suited up with 25/25 - she could use a kimo she could tame - but not call previously.





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Seiryuu
Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:58 pm
#4

Wire3k is correct.

We can never go over our +max pet level modifier, however with aggressive creatures there can be a gap between what we can call and that maximum level. Our maximum call level for aggressives is roughly equal to our +tame vicious + 13 once they are fully grown.

So with a build that is heavy on the non-Taming line, +25 can make a huge difference. At master it lets us pull out aggressives over CL 63.

Most Creature Handlers don't know that this problem is not present with non-aggressive skins since those modifiers go up with the taming level, but after they spent a fortune on a kimogila instead of a gurreck it is a little late.

Ignoring the level help though, the modifier do make a huge difference in taming. I get attacked a lot less on tames and drop my average attempts on CL 45+ creatures from eight to two.



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RandDarkstar
Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:13 am
#5

I love the CH that goes out and gets the BioEngineered CL-68 kimo and then realizes they can't call it. Makes selling +25 taming hats soooo easy.



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Blode
Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:40 pm
#6

OKay, I admit I know almost nothing about CH profession. But one of my guildmates gave me this information about CH tissues:


1) CL is hard capped at 70, so tissues will not help a master CH since they have a restricted amount of pets.


2) taming is a skill that got tweaked/nerfed a patch or so ago, and it does not do what it used to do (whatever that is)



All I know, is the two friends I have with master CH skills that managed to find a vendor that sells CH clothing each bought a shirt for 250k...and feel their purchases are worthless. I am currently selling their remorseful purchases on my vendor to help them recoup their money, but I don't feel confident that these tissues do what people think they do. Maybe for a non-master, they really help, but I don't think a MCH will reap any benefits.


Like you said tho, rare stuff = price hikes, so as long as people thing its a covetted item, they won't pay much attention to what us tailors say about it.




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Songe
Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:55 pm
#7

Actually, only wookies can currently call agressive creatures above level 60 without clothes. For non wookies, if you are a master Ch and want to call an agressive pet over 60, you will need them.



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ArthurDentOnBria
Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:27 pm
#8

Hmm, now wait a second. This benefit is to *taming* aggressive creatures correct? What is to stop a CH from aquiring an aggressive creature, having a master CH tame it, transfer it back to them, and then call it?



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Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
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RandDarkstar
Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:09 pm
#9

It's a bug in the "calling" code, that makes a creature unable to be called out of the datapad. If the CH took off their +14 shirt, then they would not be able to summon the creature out again. Don't ask me why, I just sell the shirts and watch them blow kisses afterwards....



Jame'thiel Dreamweaver
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