Tailor Archive

No one who isn't a Tailor wants clothing decay, because everyone is cheap and wants to hoarde their credits. Beating this dead horse is getting us nothing. We need an apternative. Why not make clothes in the game do as they do in real life: fade? Our color palette has several degrees of saturation for each individual main color. I think that color should fade to the least saturated version of the clothing item's original color across time, that rate affected by the quality of the materials and experimentation of the tailor's skill. This way people don't technically *have* to buy new clothes, but their clothes from week 1 will fade to mostly grey given time, and if they want to have those vibrant colors back, they must buy the item again.

This sounds like the *perfect* idea to me....

....but

bah I'm a double-post newb - sorry =)

Hey if you would, please read the post I just made about the subject.. my vision of how tailoring should be.

Actually, it's not exactly true to say that no non-tailors want clothing decay. Other crafter classes seem to understand and support the decay issue. And the decay threads in SWG discussion have many posts saying things along the lines of "I'm not a tailor, and I support clothing decay."

But I definately agree with a model where clothing decay leads to fading color instead of disappearing garments. Then we could theoretically have two things to experiment on, a durability stat that makes clothing decay slower and some kind of cloth quality stat that means that an item would start to fade at a lower condition than normal. We need decay to keep our profession relevant. So why not give us something to use our experimentation points on at the same time?

I want clothing decay because I have too many clothes! And I feel bad destroying anything that was given to me as a gift.

I was very anxious to make a tailor but have since decided not too due to the fact that the clothing does not decay. There is no point in making your only character on a server a tailor unless your just plain bored. Not everyone wants to be a gun bunny. We don't all want to be in the war and should not have too. A one time sale per item to each customer will eventually catch up to the tailors and I fear many if not most will end up dropping the profession. I really wish they would reconsider this horrible decision. The economy will flourish in the early stages of the game because there are so many dancers and musicians that still have to buy the clothes they want, but in time sales will stagnate and the poor tailors will be suffering. I hate to complain but this is terrible for the tailor and the economy.

The only problem here (And the reason tailors don't already have some kind of clothing related decay method) is that this solution isn't generic. Holocron has consistantly said the reason they havn't implemented standard 'you wear it it decays' clothing decay is that it requires a clothing specific implementation. They want to find a way where they can cause decay on everything (from clothes, to furniture, to nemodian bird cages) without having to write specialized code.

Personally, however, if they do implement a clothing specific decay method, I hope this method makes the cut. It's a great idea.

I likethe ideatoo, prolly more than clothing decay.

I don't like this idea at all. Initially, I saw it as realistic and an easier-to-implement decay alternative than, say, turning to rags. However, I worked really hard to get that master tailor palette, and this entire community has worked really hard to get that palette restored to 255 colors. Not 39 colors with six degrees of decay (for most of them). I do not want my customers (many of whom buy things in colors other than black) to be told that the color they prefer is actually a ratty, worn-out version of a color they don't like as much. No thanks. There has to be a solution that doesn't punish us by taking away our hard-won colors! Yes, we need a turnover in our clothing markets, but this shouldn't be the way it happens.

Alsatia MistSabre, Master Tailor/ Master Dancer, Corbantis

I'm not normally on this forum, but I think my BH perspective may help. While I don't really like the idea of of cloths being destroyed when the wear out, I love the idea of fading. I kinda feel for tailors, since most clothing isn't really required. I do think you guys need the ability to make money. I just dread the day when I'm in the middle of a hunt on Endor, and POOF, I'm standing there in my underwear, and didn't bring a change of clothes with me. LOL

My fiance and i got in a small argument about clothing decay.

I said "dont you think clothes should decay?" he said "no, why should they?" i got mad.

but he made some really good points which,although i still want decay, made me feel a little better.

we played UO, I was a Grandmaster Tailor in UO, I loved it, but i RARELY sold clothes. Why not? The way the UO clothing worked, was that it did decay and take damage when you fought, but it was very very little, that you basically never had to replace your clothing. In UO, there were dye tubs. all sorts. you did not need tailoring skills to dye your clothing. if you had a dye tub, or access to one, you could change it to whatever the heck color you wanted. tailors did not make money off of clothing.

Here on SWG, people can't change the color of their clothing. if they feel like changing it up a bit, they HAVE to buya new shirt, pants, whatever. At least there aren't dye tubs where people can just change their clothing color whenever they felt like it.

In UO, tailors usually made their money off of selling leather armor. The Blacksmithy skill let you make metal armor and weapons. But the tailors made the light, leather armor. That's how I made my UO money, leather armor, not clothing.

I think this is something that might be a good idea for SWG. Tailors making leather armor. It would be weaker of course (like the bone armor we can make) but it could fashionable, come in spiffy colors, and offer slightly better defenses than just plain old nothing. They could even implement the same decay system used for regular armor.

Leather armor would be cool... but it wouldn't really come in spiffy colors. At least not currently. If I'm restricted to the leather palette on cloaks,dusters,boots,etc... then there better not be leather armor available in more colors than that! (And armorsmiths? They should only have access to the metal palette! I don't know what they currently get, but I'm sorry - If I'm stuck with a limited metal palette, then they should be too. And if they get a full palette? I'll complain until I get it, too! )

Alsatia MistSabre, Master Tailor/Master Dancer, Corbantis