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How do i setup a macro for practicing? I use the /createprototype one but it keeps creating the actual item and doesn't use practice so I end up with tons of items in inventory....any help??? Thanks!

Heh, never knew there was a macro to do it without practice.. Just grind away... that's what I did those many moons ago. You kids have it easy today!!

Ok I dont support macroing, but all you need to do is boot up your kits use practice on one item in each and you'll ahve practice auto clicked. not sure if it works for crafting stations since i dont test it .. but will work just using your personal box

love, Kay

It won't work. I tried it, but in your macro you have that /createPrototype which will always craft the items.

No way to use practice for the moment...

The only way is to setup your macro to choose the item, then you assmble the materials and go on by yourself... it will save a couple of clicks...

if you want to use the whole macro then you will have to create items.

dunno, I know it sounds rude, but I gotta get it out of my system.

Macro crafting = cheating

Have fun, you probably peek on people's cards while playing go fish as well.

I don't know... would you consider avoiding a carpal syndrome cheating?


Anyway the game gives the chance build your own macro.

As always... there is no way to answer to this question: to macro or not to macro?

The only way to answer, in my opinion, is: live and let live...

I am not offended by people macroing or grinding or not rping and I am a roleplayer... I don't see why I should bother.

As I understand it SOE never intended crafting to be macroed. Yes, it's possible to do it, and yes it's possible to even get a third party program to go at it non stop 24/7. Just because you can do it (because SOE hasn't plugged up every hole for exploitingand exploits in combat are far more important to them than exploits in crafting) doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. Just me though. Not being holier than thou, but I didn't participate in the Dathomir missions or the nest missions on whatever planet it was even though I have combat skills and knew about it. An exploit is an exploit. People can choose to exploit it because they can and feel justified and people can choose not to exploit it because it goes with the whole idea of playing the game fair and square and feel justified. If people didn't realize that SOE never intended for crafting to be macroed then no biggie, ignorance is not the end of the world. However, if people know that SOE never intended macro crafting to be possible, then an exploit is an exploit...a rose is a rose...a cheat is a cheat. Harsh words, but that's my take, sometimes it's just hard to admit when you're doing something or did something that isn't of the nobelist character.

Macro? Why would someone use macro anyway, it's already easy enough to grind.

- Just start your crafting station

- Hit enter to select and boot the schematic of the last item you craft

- Double-clic the needed material

- hit enter a few times until it's completed

Of course do check the pratice box to get a 5% xp bonus beforehand.

Back to macro Javrie is right, SOE never intented to have crafting macroed. One other reason why macroing crafting will be rather impossible it's because of all the server delay you have from time to time when crafting, macroing would just not work.

Beside, why using macro for something we all love to do for hours

Then let's see Macroing is cheating... I agree, yes, you're right...

Then?

Do I have to judge someone cause they don't play the way I do?

Do I have to go around the world and spread the word trying to convince people not to macro?

Before doing things like this I usually ask myself: is the behaviour of this game ruining my fun?

If the answer is no, why should I annoy everyone with my strong sense of justice?

And even if the answer is yes, I usually try to talk and see if I can do something to cohabit with the problem...

Even because macroing is a long time issue (I still remember people playing all day long their annoying lute in UO ) and it exists and we can't do anything about it... quite useless to go around and say: you can't this you can't that...

The only important thing in playing game is to have fun, am I wrong?

Oh and also.. it's impossible to macro crafting.

I know that all you can do is to avoid clicking a couple of times...

But you have to be there present and in front of your monitor...

So... what's the deal?

Then let's see Macroing is cheating... I agree, yes, you're right...

Yup, that's what I said in my original post. Plain and simple.

Then?

Do I have to judge someone cause they don't play the way I do?

I stated it was cheating which you just confirmed. So are you now judging too? haha And btw, yeah I don't like playing with people who cheat ("playing the way I do" means I don't cheat). Would you want to play five card stud with someone with aces up their sleeves?

Do I have to go around the world and spread the word trying to convince people not to macro?

Oh my talk about hyperbole, I posted on the tailoring board not the main board and didn't start the thread, and I hardly equate that with "the world". lol lighten up on the exaggeration. One thread, on one site, on one board, for one game hardly constitutes itself as "the world". I didn't say not to macro, not like I can stop it from happening there are plenty of people who will take that route. I simply stated that those who do are cheating. Have at it be a cheater, but call it what it is if you're gonna do it. At least have some pride about being a cheater if you aren't going to retain enough pride to not cheat. And you confirmed yourself it's cheating So call it as it is stand up and be proud say it I am a cheater and dang proud of it!

Before doing things like this I usually ask myself: is the behaviour of this game ruining my fun?

Well again, do you like playing with someone who moves chess pieces while you're not looking? And is my behavior ruining YOUR fun? Why is it you didn't ask yourself that same question before responding to my post Ah you should take a taste of your own medicine. Maybe my behavior is ruining your fun, maybe that's why it irritates you

If the answer is no, why should I annoy everyone with my strong sense of justice?

And if I'm annoying you, so sorry. That irritation is probably that small bit of conscience you have in the back of your mind saying "hey wait remember me?" I have a right to state my opinion as you do yours. Don't like what I say don't read it. You're not annoying me with your apathetic attitude towards basic good character. It actually sort of amuses me that someone would take such a stand and such an effort to justifycheating! Ah much more intertaining than most threads that just flame andhavepoorly laid out thoughts.and...mebee...just mebee...it's annoying you because you have to admit you cheat if you macro, and if you macro, therefore you cheat?

And even if the answer is yes, I usually try to talk and see if I can do something to cohabit with the problem...

Bottom line, I live with it. But it doesn't mean that I can't say, I think you're cheating. And maybe as I stated in my second post, some people didn't realize it was an exploit. So, that's talking about it, giving knowledge so people are more informed.

Even because macroing is a long time issue (I still remember people playing all day long their annoying lute in UO ) and it exists and we can't do anything about it... quite useless to go around and say: you can't this you can't that...

Yes, macroing is here to stay because SOE has bigger things to deal with. But as useless as it is, you just want me to stop "annoying" you so you can cheat with a free conscience. Oh Javrie, please don't mention it again because if no one reminds us we are cheating we won't ever have to feel any remorse about it. lol lots of useless things are said on these forums. Why don't you go ask them not to post about some of the inane things that are discussed. Actually, it's a matter of opinion isn't it? Maybe by making this particular exploit more known, it can be plugged up sooner, or maybe by letting people know it was never intended then people who do want to play by the rules will know. In my opinion, I don't think it's useless.

The only important thing in playing game is to have fun, am I wrong?

Yup playing the game is about having fun, on that we can agree. And you seemed to have blown this out of porportion, I stated a truth. Macro crafting is cheating. You agreed with it. I explained why it was cheating in my second post to clarify my very brief first post. I think you're taking offense because...well... you cheat. If you are having fun cheating, then yes, as I said in my first post you probably peek at other people's cards while playing Go Fish, and if that's your idea of fun. Have at it Cheater

Maybe you missed the funniest part of my post.

I don't use macro.

That's all. Don't waste your words for me.

I don't use macro and I don't care if someone does.

Your example of chess is quite funny actually. I actually do not find it the right example but ok... If I play with someone and they cheat and they do something which ruins my game I agree, I would protest.

Macroing has never ruined my fun. If one day I will find out it does, I will probably change my mind.

And about you expressing your opinion: of course you are welcome to, and have all the rights you want. But if you write a post which is poorly related to the original post... well I call this: not to make your own business
So you can't really think no one will answer!

And the purpose of letting you know I don't use macros was just to let you understand I am not justifying myself cause I don't have to!

Isn't it weird?

You choose not to play with "cheaters" (can't you really see the diference between cheaters and Cheaters?) and ok.. but I can assure you... a lot of good trustful rpers have been macroing (thus cheating) from time to time... more than you suspect

Then... I don't want to quarrel I jsut think the world is not only Black and White... there are also some greys around

Yup, then that is pretty funny. I did totally miss that you didn't macro. LOL *blush* To be fair to me though, ya never really made that clear. You said you tried it, that you you couldn't use practice mode. Didn't actually say you didn't use macros at all. Left it open really, I read it as you tried to make the macro in practice but couldn't so the macro you use was create prototype. Wasn't chrystal clear, and coupled with your adamant stance of defending macroing, I made the incorrect assumption that you did. You seem reasonable enough, read your first post objectively and think about you subsequent posts and see how I may have come to this conclusion in error. And if I missed even more than that then shoot me,for what it's worth, I'm a lousy crafter now I surrendered all my combat skills except for carbine four.

Well, ok, you didn't like the moving the chess pieces around, but the idea is there. Sheesh you are a tough audience to please.

I don't get this whole thing about RPing? I mean I don't RP myself.For me personally,it's not my cup o' tea, but you like to so I'm not disputing RPing with you. I don't really care if you do or don't, but for some reason you've mentioned it twice now like it's an important thing, and I'ma lil bit stumped by that.

Oh and no. I didn't say I don't play with cheaters. You said that. You said something like 'I was upset because people didn't play the game the same way I do' yeah poorly paraphrased but gimme a break here. So no, you're the one that sorta stated that. And I was pretty much saying I'm gonna say something about people who don't play the game I do...well anyway blah blah blah, yeah I know I play with cheaters. You think I'm that naive? I know there are a lot of people who role play or don't role play that have used exploits.A lot of people I like and call friendsused the nest exploit too and made lots of money. I called them exploiters, they agreed, and we laughed about it. At least they admitted it wholeheartedly. My crafting buddies and my husband in my shop, I know none of us macroed. So I'm pretty proud of that. All the masters at my shop have everything to be proud of.

That's the deal isn't it? It doesn't make an immediate difference to me if people macro or don't macro (except for some that I outline a bit later) but it's really where is the pride? I mean you cheat on a test and get an A+ you didn't earn it. YOu cheat in a game and win, you didn't earn it. You cheat inan MMORPG and get to the top, you didn't earn it. I don't get it.

Ido beg to differ, the original post asked for a way to macro craft by using practice mode, and I stated macro crafting = cheating. Was totally on topic IMO, but you can disagree with that I figured the people who actually exploit purposely wouldn't answer because they pretty much know that yup they cheat why bring light upon themselves that they are. Actually was glad you answered has been extremely entertaining. And while it doesn't affect me, I think it does affect the whole game. For one lets say two people start off as novice whatever at the same time, and play approximately the same amount of time. The person who cheats will get to the top before the person who doesn't. The person on the top is the one with the most business and cash. I'm already at the top without macro-ing so no it doesn't affect me except that I have a fleet of competition that gets to me faster than they would without an exploit which eats into the amount of time I earned to be on top without their competition. But for the people who chose not to macro, then yeah it's not fair for them. If you can't see that, then I guess you have adifferent view of the world. Takes all views to have a vision.

And no, there are far worse cheaters out there than just the ingame macros. There are actually third person programs written to do it all without a click, set it and go bye bye and be master when you come back. C'mon you gotta agree that suxors big time. Why am I announcing this? Ah like you said, it's gonna happen, I can't stop it. Alsobringing it upbecause you had made a separate post about it. Yeah ingame macros you have to be at your screen...but behold the other macro....

Nah the world isn't black and white, I fully accept that, but sometimes we mix in the grey a whole lot more than we have to and make justifications to do so. Just my opinion on that.

Great discussion with ya An'ya. Always good to pit your intellect, wit, and sarcasm with an equal.