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Thread: Question from a consumer

shredder112233
Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:56 pm
#1

So You cant make bio clothes anymore right? If i buy the tissues now can they be used later? What about clothes bio modded pre nerfage? Do they still work?


Thanks



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Kaece
Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:45 pm
#2


correct, Bio clothes cannot be made since the Pub 18 bug. Theoretically the pre 18 modded clothing still works, but there are lot of people that think that it doesnt. I have alot of friends that have been doing some testing and most of them are coming up with the clothing isnt working. This is nothing deffinate, just some people trying to figure it out. I dont use them so I personally dont know.

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shredder112233
Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:28 pm
#3

any idea on when bio clothes will work again?



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MeciniaLua
Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:42 pm
#4

Other than that JFreeman posted in here a few weeks ago saying that it was a tough nut to crack and they were working on it, that's all we know.


The Defense clothing does not seem to work though we have a lot of conflicting reports...and according to some folks its not just clothes....but anything that modifies your defense does not work. Everyone agress that it adds to your stats on your sheet, howeverseveral folks in testing have found that it really doesn't do anything. Some speculate that accuracy and defense stats themselves are not working properly.


Terrain Negotiation, Augment Efficiency, Healing Efficiency, and Cure Efficiency seem to work.


The thing to keep inmind though is that it operates on a bell curve, not a linear curve. That meaning the closer you approach to the theoritical max, the less effect you will see.At the same time as you approach the theoritical minimum the lesser the effect. Its in the middle you are most apt to notice a difference.





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shredder112233
Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:05 am
#5

Hmm thats why i dont understand lol...yesterday ingame I asked 10 different tailors different questions, got different answers. Same story is happening on the forums. I just dont know what is right



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ItemCreator
Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:32 am
#6

If you buy tissues from a Bio-Engineer that have not been put into synth cloth, or RFP they will be fine to use once the tailoring BE bug is fixed.

I think part of the confusion is that if tailors try to put the BE tissues into synth cloth or RFP the mods won't stick to it.

The bug is with the tailoring side of things, NOT the bio-enginering part.




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NJ62
Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:03 am
#7



shredder112233 wrote:
So You cant make bio clothes anymore right? If i buy the tissues now can they be used later? What about clothes bio modded pre nerfage? Do they still work?
Thanks



The crux of the bug is that if a BE tissue is combined into Synth cloth or RFP's, it loses all mods, and the synth cloths and RFP's do not reflect any bonuses. The same occurs if a modded synth cloth or RFP that was created before the bug is combined into a piece of clothing - the bonus is lost upon the combine.

Kelsaka has it right, let me see if I can answer your specific questions, since it can seem that this forum is inconsistent, when really we have a good handle on this bug. However, sometimes it is unclear to us whether when you say "tissues" you mean BE tissues or Synth cloth/RFP's that have already been modded with tissues. This is where the confusion is probably coming from.

1. Bio clothes cannot be made anymore

2. You can buy the tissues now, but DO NOT combine them into synth cloth or reinforced panels. The RFP's and Synth cloths will come out unmodded. It is unclear whether synth cloth or RFP's which were successfully combined with BE tissues before the bug occurred will successfully combine to create modded clothing after this bug is fixed.

3. Already-existing clothing which was bio-modded before the bug is working (to the best of my knowledge). However, see the FAQ for details but not all bio tissues were working BEFORE the bug anyway.



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Icho
Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:43 pm
#8

Bio Tissues can still be made by a Bio Engineer, I've made full factory runs of +17 Terrain Negotiation-Unarmed and +19 Healing Efficiency tissues with no problem at all, so yes, you can buy now and use later when the bio clothing is craftable again.



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