Tailor Archive

Thread: Please don't flame:

ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:17 am
#14


Geez, and just when I thought this had been laid to rest. oh well, I'll restate what I think here, although this was said on the other thread.


Tailors want to make clothing, period. If you are a master tailor you have the realistic expectation that you be able to make the best, most desirable clothing that there is. Having rangers make their own clothing or an NPC make better clothing than us is an insult. And I think NJ said it best when she said that we want to be clothing suppliers, not an obstacle in the way of people getting their l33t loot (which is what happens when people must do a quest, collect all the parts themselves, and then "oh gawd, now I have to go to one of those awful tailors to get my l33t loot".


There, that's what I think

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 06-23-2004 09:21 AM



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NJ62
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:06 am
#15

Okay what about this:


Permanent schematic for the tailor (acquired - well I don't know, work that out later)


Tailors make the item, period


Rangers have cert for the article so it shows "I'm a ranger"


Thoughts?



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ArthurDentOnBria
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:27 am
#16




which is more or lesswhat I proposed on the ranger thread. To which they seemed evenly divided between "to hell with tailors, we'll make/get our own" and "ok, we concede that the loot should probably be a schematic that we have to take to the dangstinkin tailorrather than the finished piece".





NJ62 wrote:

Okay what about this:


Permanent schematic for the tailor (acquired - well I don't know, work that out later)


Tailors make the item, period


Rangers have cert for the article so it shows "I'm a ranger"


Thoughts?




Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 06-23-2004 10:34 AM



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Phenix1050
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:34 am
#17


I like it, I like it.


I still like the idea of Tailor missions, though.

As long as you guys get a permanent schematic for completing the mission, of course...otherwise it's just like all the other "l33t l00t" that's out there now. Believe me, I didn't want more of that. I think tailors need to be more actively involved in getting these things sometimes...like say if a "l33t loot" mission is taken by a tailor, they get a PERMANANT schematic. That way, the people who take the missions can't be bothered by the "i did it all" complaints.


So what do you think about that? Missions taken by a Tailor to get schematics become permanent (implying that a Tailor has enough training to remember how to make the item). Thus, the Tailor would have to get the schematic for the Legendary Ranger clothing. If a non-Tailor gets the schematic and sells it to the Tailor, it's a limited use schematic. If the tailor gets the schematic themselves, it becomes a permanant addition, like any other schematic. The Ranger quests would instead be to collect certain artifacts related to hunting prowness. When the quests are through, the Ranger has the certs to wear the clothes, and gets all the artifacts they collected as decoration for their house. Tailors make the clothes from top to bottom, and they have complete clothing control.


Does this work for everyone?

Message Edited by Phenix1050 on 06-23-2004 01:36 PM



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MonsofoLexius
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:15 am
#18






Phenix1050 wrote:




Does this work for everyone?





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Kurtzgirl
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:17 am
#19

Okay, Phenix, I like the suggestion you last came up with. My only concern is what happens to the "l33t l00t" items that the Tailor made for the Master Ranger if the person drops the profession? Does the person still retain the ability to wear the clothing or because the person dropped Master Ranger, he no longer has the ablitily to wear the clothing? If the person no longer has the ability to wear the clothing, what happens then? Can he sell them? Do they disappear when MR is dropped?


I ask this question because if these clothes have the ability to increase stats and the former MR is selling them, what's to stop them from selling them to someone who has no idea that they cannot wear them because they don't have the certifications?



Also, I know you said to forget everything first said, but I think you have the wrong impression that tailors have the ability to experiment on clothing, there are only, I think, 1 or 2 items that we tailors can currently experiment on and they don't even really belong to our profession, they belong to the armorsmiths. Just wanted to drop an FYI in here, not a flame.





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Phenix1050
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:28 am
#20

ahh...thanks for the info...I'll file that away. Hehe I REALLY need to start doing research before I stick my big Bothan nose into things, don't I?


As per your question I can only say this: what's to stop a Weaponsmith from selling a noob entertainer an LLC? I don't think the items should disappear. In fact, I know personally, most Rangers would keep it in their houses just to remember the good old days of being a Master Ranger.

That being said, I think as long as a warning is put onto the item (much like the ones currently placed on the Beserker Rifle) that would say "This item is only equipable by Master Rangers" there would be no reason to make it disappear.


In the end, newbs will be taken advantage of, and there is a definate learning curve to SWG. This would be just like any other item like Armor or weapons that you need certs for...sometimes, a new player will make a mistake, but in the end, as long as there is a warning, then there shouldn't be too many instances of people being taken advantage of.



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BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003


This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.
UniformMarshal
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:29 am
#21

I think that there is a grand possibility for cross proffession quests. If we did push for Master Ranger Professionspecific clothing, the PERMANENT schematic should be ours. A tailor would have to have fulfilled a quest to aquire the rare schematic. This involves the tailor. Buttheschematicwould also require an item, say a "piece of mesh weave" made only by a Master Ranger, who finished the quest. His part is that he receives a one use "mesh weave" schematic. Whya schematic? So he can make mulitple"mesh weaves" to replenish hisclothes, or incase theres a critical failure. Or to get thier outfit in a different color, but making a new one.

This idea can be be used with an of the professions. No needing to buy loot drop stuff and schematics.



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