Tailor Archive
Thread: Weird Resale Guy
SeraphinAnnie
Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:15 pm
#14
To the original poster: Whether or not reselling is "ok" or not is not the real issue IMO. You didn't overreact. You'd rather not have your stuff resold, and that's perfectly fine. It's your business and your time that you work for. You have the right to decide if you like others making profit off of you. And realistically, that's all he was doing. I don't buy the whole "I'm trying to help you by getting your name known." If that were a believable reason for reselling, then there would be no mark-up. And there always is, always. It's for straight profit.
You weren't rude to him, you simply and nicely told him you'd rather not participate in his reselling. That's just honesty. I would of said the same thing.
I would not have a problem with setting up a contract to re-sell my clothing with a Merchant, although I don't "need" it since I have plenty of my own vendors. But, I would not be happy with someone just coming in and wiping out half my vendor stock to resell somewhere.
I think that is my problem with re-sellers. Not that they want to do it, but that they clean out your vendors that take my time to refill. It's not really about "permission", it's about respect. If someone wants to buy a large number of items to resell, ask me to make them specifically for that. Otherwise, you're making more work for me. Realistically, I expect items to be recycled. People buy things, or too many things and change their minds, or need to clean out their wardrobes, and sell items on personal vendors or the Bazaar. That I do not mind. But resellers should be more respectful not to just clean people out. Mind you, I understand what someone said above about few tailors giving permission. However, you might find that less would be resistant if the deal was done in a decent manner. Most tailors have been bitten by the "I'll buy every pair of shoes they have" and then finding them on the Bazaar for 3 times the price scenario. It stings. So some guy they don't know from Adam asking if they can have a bunch of stuff to resell won't go over lightly, understandably. I think there has to be some trust established, and a good business ethic.
On a side note: I have always labeled my clothing since the beginning with my "tag". It establishes the work as my own, and people associate my business with it.
Pappi
Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:50 pm
#15
DirthNader wrote:
NJ62 wrote:
I would ban him from my shop and add him to ignore. I'm mean.You'd make a great armorsmith
Don't mind me, just stumbling through to get a macro for grinding a couple of boxes (my long-time tailor retired).
she also bites
RonninOtnemem
Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:03 pm
#16
Pappi wrote:
DirthNader wrote:
NJ62 wrote:
I would ban him from my shop and add him to ignore. I'm mean.
You'd make a great armorsmith
Don't mind me, just stumbling through to get a macro for grinding a couple of boxes (my long-time tailor retired).
she also bites
So I'm not the only one?
Good to know 
NJ62
Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:12 am
#17
*snaps teeth*
Uh.. oops
*wavehand*
"This is not the rabid correspondent you're looking for"
Uh.. oops
*wavehand*
"This is not the rabid correspondent you're looking for"
Kiatra
Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:22 pm
#18
Pappi wrote:
DirthNader wrote:
NJ62 wrote:
I would ban him from my shop and add him to ignore. I'm mean.
You'd make a great armorsmith
Don't mind me, just stumbling through to get a macro for grinding a couple of boxes (my long-time tailor retired).
she also bites
ahh so she was the one who bit me yesterday!!
TailorMaid
Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:08 am
#19
IMHO, I think you handled it very well.
As to resale guys, I understand that they make sense in RL, but I don't approve of them in game. I have encountered two occaisions of people buying and reselling my goods at greatly inflated prices. Since I tag all of my clothes, this means that the good name that I try to establish gets associated with these higher prices. I have even had people say, when I give them the wp to my vendor, that they don't want to go to my shop, the prices are too high.When asked about what price they expected to pay for goods, I found out that the prices they expected were 2 or 3 times what I normally charged. So the resellers ARE costing me business, and alienating me from my potential clientelle. Resellers seem to feel that if they buy 2 items for X price, and sell at least 1 of them for 3X, then they have made a good profit and that is ok - no regard at all for the original tailors reputation.
DirthNader
Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:19 am
#20
Since I'm in this thread anyway...
A lot of people are kidding themselves thinking that they're playing the merchant profession "as intended" by running around to people's vendors, buying up anything they think they can mark up, and then reselling. They're not - what they're doing is scalping. A true merchant would have contracts with the crafters to uy wholesale and sell at a crafter-approved price.
I despise resellers/scalpers, because a lot of times I'm priced below market value but can't really see asking for the insane amount of credits that "market value" is for my items.One specific example I can think of would be that once in a blue moon I'll do a run of mabari for new players. It ends up being pretty nice new player armor, and I sell it for about 3000 cr a set (about what a new player can earn from the helper droid quests). Whenever I see multiple sets get bought up by the same player, I check the bazaar listings. So far I've been lucky not to have a scalper hit, but if/when I do they'll have a shop ban placed on them so fast...
Aori
Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:37 am
#21
You know, I read this thread yesterday thinking "Gee..I'm really thankful not to have had to deal with a Resaler " to sign on today to find out for the first time I've been a victim of one. Irony. I was checking my email when I saw a name in the selling statements that I didn't expect to see. Another tailor/merchant. I had never talked to them before, but I had seen them spamming in Coronet before, and had seen their clothing items on the bazaar. It wasn't just one item, but like 20-25 of them, and they were all dresses with the Dancing/Music Wound Healing enhancements (+12s to +25s) and all 3 of the Tailor Aprons. Now, this person was a guy, so I don't think he'd be wearing those dresses. I ended up checking his vendor to see them there, and found it amusing and laughed. I'm happy he bought the Tailor Aprons (THANK YOU!!1!). Those things are the hardest things to get rid of. Hell, had he asked nicely, I probably would have even given one of them to him for free, being he's another tailorlol. But to buy out my entire line of the Entertainer enhanced clothes just to mark it up and fill his own vendor which was about 2000m away, really put a hurt on my vendors. It added a LOT of restocking time and used up the rest of the tissues of that type I had to try to put more back up (but thats what they are for), however, it'll still take me several days to get it back up to where it was before. I'm **edit** about my vendors hehe. I need a wide selection of things. If I'm missing something, it'll drive me nuts.
It's not that I have a problem with resale. I'm completely fine with it. In all reality, I get paid what I want to be paid. It's just that I'd like to be given the respect to be contacted first and asked if I minded that my clothes were going to be resold on a nearby vendor. Sure, I probably wouldn't have been thrilled with the idea, but I would have much rather taken that order as a custom order where I could work on it seperately while keeping my vendors stocked to an amount that makes me and my customers happy than to have had my Bioclothing vendor cleaned out by a resaler.
But oh well. These things happen and I'm sure it won't be the last time either. I think I was more frustrated at first but now find it rather amusing, despite the added increase in unexpected restocking load.
NJ62
Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:02 am
#22
Yes, it's extremely problematic when a reseller buys you out all at once, because your customers come, find an empty vendor, and may never come back - makes it look like you are a lousy tailor for failing to stock properly. In general, I find that it is courteous not to buy out a vendor of anything, period.
I would still ban that reseller from my shop. Hee hee.
I would still ban that reseller from my shop. Hee hee.
Aori
Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:22 am
#23
NJ62 wrote:
I would still ban that reseller from my shop. Hee hee.
Hehe, thats the first thing I did. 
It'llsave me restockingwork in the future and let me focus more on keeping my vendor well stocked for my actual customers who by their clothes to wear themselves.
It'llsave me restockingwork in the future and let me focus more on keeping my vendor well stocked for my actual customers who by their clothes to wear themselves.
DaAhn
Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:16 am
#24
NJ62 wrote:
*snaps teeth*
Uh.. oops
*wavehand*
"This is not the rabid correspondent you're looking for"
Did we also mention she is Force Sensitive?
xPREDATORx
Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:22 pm
#25
ok then let me throw another x factor into the fire....which i personally hate (nuthin to do with tailor) ppl spammin buying the new jtl paintign for 200k then when u got to there vendor they r selling them at 700k the scum now i think this is totally wrong becasue noobs fall prey very easy to this.
SetiAlpha
Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:42 pm
#26
this is ridiculous....
you overreacted. any time that soemone in this game can get under your skin, it stops being a game.
lemme ask you this... why do you care?