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Thread: 1% decay needed plz read

Anabelle
Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:33 pm
#14






roysterer wrote:
Wait a minute....I was under the impression that you could continue wearing clothes that have a condition of zero.




You can, but it's a bug.




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Gyopi
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:51 am
#15






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:

I have no idea why someone would come to the tailor board and expect to drum up support for removing decay. And writing a title like "plz read" makes the author sound drunk and lacking in credability, but I do have to disagree with tailors who claim that decay was something we never wanted. To me that is a cop-out. It certainly *is* something we wanted, regardless of any one person's view here. There was a huge furor on this forum when they removed experimentation. In fact our tailor correspondent got so angry that she quit over this issue, any many including myself stopped making clothes for a short time in protest. It was also #1 on our top 10 list as I recall back when we had such a list. Now, much like the coloring issue, there was little consensus here as to how decay should work, and it's easy for a tailor to say "well, they didn't implement it MY way, so I take no responsibility", but that doesn't change the fact that it was something we asked for.




Yes. Most of us screamed for decay when they took away experiementation. It had been promised to us and then it looked like it would never happen. If I remember correctly, after just a day or two of screaming one of the devs proposed the current death based scheme to us and it was almost universally hated by most of us because it didn't affect entertainers (who at least at that time were our biggest customers instead of the BE clothing crowd). So yes, we wanted decay but no, we did not want the what they gave us. The strange thing is that they said they wanted this scheme to help the architects too, but in the end it did not affect them at all.








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Gyopi
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:55 am
#16






mmaughme wrote:


For myself, I stopped buying Tailored clothing when the decay system went live. I'd rather buy junk of the bazaar and let it decay than pay 15K credits to keep a pair of pants up and running.






Umm... If you can buy camos for less than 600 credits (I personally charge 3K and I can't keep them in stock!) and you spend 15K to insure them, then you need to seriously question your financial management skills. Unless you are constantly PvPing in your clothes and are really bad at it, your pants should not decay so fast. Even when they do, they are still usable at 0 condition.




Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
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Gyopi
Fri Feb 06, 2004 8:58 am
#17






ArthurDentOnBria wrote:


Well, if they switched it to use-based decay I think the non-tailor community if anything would be *more* unhappy about it. All that would mean is that now all the folks that don't get db'ed on a regular basis would have the same decay as those who did. Either way, non-tailors are not going to like it.







Quite frankly people would be the most happy with no decay and NPC tailors who they can go to, design their own clothes and buy anything they want for 100 to 1000 credits each. But hopefully they will never get that. Almost everyone wants the best stuff for themselves with no pain or inconvenience and for it to be harder on everyone else. It is just human nature.






Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
Eimi -- Master Bioengineer - Master Image Designer on Lowca--
Eimiko--Master Image Designer on TestCenter--

ArthurDentOnBria
Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:12 am
#18

100cr for clothing??? what an outrage, I want it for 50, lol


No, you're absolutely right, and this was my point. When tailors tell combat folks, "who us? WE didn't want decay like this, WE wanted a different form of decay, it was the EVIL DEVSwho did it" that argument means nothing to them, because to them, decay is decay is decay. Either way its an added expense, either way it may mean if they fix it they may have to go to a tailor and re-buy clothing again.


But of course they are simply failing to see the big picture, and that is without perks for tailors, and a system that is good to tailors, and encourages tailors, nobody will want to be a tailor, and so no clothing for them, at any price, decay or no. All it would take would be, say a 50% reduction in the number of tailors on their server and suddeny they'd see the light.






Gyopi wrote:

Quite frankly people would be the most happy with no decay and NPC tailors who they can go to, design their own clothes and buy anything they want for 100 to 1000 credits each. But hopefully they will never get that. Almost everyone wants the best stuff for themselves with no pain or inconvenience and for it to be harder on everyone else. It is just human nature.








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Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
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Srednii
Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:09 pm
#19






donnah42 wrote:




Oliva wrote:
And what ever happened to the "Nude wars", where people said they would never purchase another tailors items ever again because we got the decay that we demanded (actually, ignoring the fact that a majority if not all, of the tailors did not want death decay).




There were quite a few naked people on Radiant for about a week and a half. Then everyone else started pointing out that they looked like noobs who were either going naked because they were stupid, or too poor to be able to afford clothes.






heh, I'm running around naked right now. Master tailor, and me and my alt are running around naked , a sad sad day. It's for a totally different thing tho, for the past month I've been suffering lockups on what seems like an hourly basis. Garunteed at least once a night the client will freeze on me, everythings frozen but I can still move the cursor. But I can't alt tab out, can't ctrl-alt-del, can't nothing, I'm forced to reset the computer. But ever since I heard about the naked people test on the test server I've been running around nekkid and I havn't had a lock up since.


Kinda sad when a master tailor goes naked cause clothes cause lock ups .



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Sergia
Fri Feb 06, 2004 12:17 pm
#20

I find that no matter what we want, they're going to listen to everyone else except us. We just have to conform to the changes as they happen...and what happened anyway when decay was implemented? It doesn't work People will always wear clothing, they will always get sick of their look and want something new, and if you specialize in enhanced clothing, they'll always come back to you.



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Arnwald
Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:58 pm
#21


Hello,


return of the starter of this topic


First I didn't edited my post at all an I think it would be interesting to have your input as the devs where telling the decay system was there because you needed some love.


I saw a lot of frustation here, remembers me the DE forum...


With what I read, I think you all want a decay system, maybe a decay per usage?


Anyway, ty for you info.

Message Edited by Arnwald on 02-08-2004 10:00 PM

Dite
Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:32 pm
#22






Arnwald wrote:


First I didn't edited my post at all an I think it would be interesting to have your input as the devs where telling the decay system was there because you needed some love.





Yeah, sorry about that editing comment, some of the threads were blending in my mind.


As for why our input doesn't matter, we've tried it so many times before and each time the Devs have chosen to ignore us. All I can say is that if the Devs use us as an excuse for why something is in the game, take it with a grain of salt. It probably isn't very accurate.


I think the biggest frustration for must tailors comes from the fact that most of the other professions don't stand up for tailors' wants, instead they are overly critical and then come into the Tailoring forum asking for support on their issues. It's hard to be able to support a group of players who don't appear to care about us one way or another, it's even harder when the issue in question has been something we've tried to change before and had little to no support then.








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