Tailor Archive

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ArthurDentOnBria wrote:

hakk,

cool, if that's what's fun for ya, do it, just don't expect a lot of love from fellow tailors if you are selling to the public (and not just your guild) at cost. To me that makes you a mercenary, not a tailor,since you earn money from killing things rather than from making clothing. As far as your tailoring, you seem to be a piece of equipment (clothing crafting machine) owned and paid for by your guild by the sound of it. So that makes you very different from most other tailors. So just realize that when you contribute to such discussions.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 07-23-2004 04:34 PM

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owned and paid by my guild?Perhaps I have to explain more...My guild Is not a PVP Guild where your profession is decided by the leader. We are a small guild and we dont even have a city. And the reason I also make money killing things is causei want to. I like tailor really much but I also want to be a combat profession so i can playa part in the GCW. And ifi getcredits while leveling pistoleer, great! But it sounds to me that youwant me tonotaccept the credits.

This is how i price my clothing and I want to know what you all think about it: (Copied from the FAQ)

Fiberplast -3cpu

Polymer - 3cpu

Steel - 3cpu

Copper -3cpu

Metals - cp3

Amorphous Gemstone - 5cpu

Crystalline Gemstone - 5cpu

Wooly Hides - 5cpu

Bristley Hides - 5cpu

Any Hides - 3cpu

Iron - 3cpu

Ore - 3cpu

Plexite Amorphous Gemstone - 5cpu

Green Diamond Crystalline Gemstone - 5cpu

Thoraneum Steel - 5cpu

Titanium Aluminum - 5cpu

Tatooine Wooly Hide - 5cpu

Nabooan Scaley Hide - 5cpu

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Kylania wrote:

Hakk, those prices are stupid. Selling at raw resource buy price is absurd, unless of course you're NOT a tailor but a pistoleer who sells clothes that is. I'd try to explain it to you, but for over a year people like you have come here with the "i only tailor for fun and price accordingly" and you wouldn't listen or understand anyway.

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hakk wrote:

...I want you to tell me what you think is a good price, not too cheap and not too expensive.

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I'd guess 10cpu straight across the board rounded to the nearest 500 increment... It's still a little on the cheap side but hopefully not so cheap as to make the pricing dictators as mad at ya... (Disclaimer to the pricing dictators: that's not the way I price, btw, but merely an answer to the question asked )

What is problematic about the 3 c/p/u and 5 c/p/u figures is that this is what raw materials go for on the open market. You're not just selling raw materials. Here are other factors that need to be considered:

• Your time


• Maintenence and power on a factory which is used to make clothing (many of those resources have been run through a factory)


• Maintenence on your structures (you want to have a nice shop, right?)


• A profit so you can buy pretty things. Yes, this is a business, this is where income comes from. Breaking even is not the goal.


• Resources consumed doing "redos", crit fails, things that don't sell, etc


• Once people find out that your prices are below market, you may not be able to keep up with demand


• If you price cheaply, some customers will treat you cheaply. Not very nice, but it happens

So you see, there are a lot of factors that go into this. And those factors also deserve money. To value clothing just on what raw materials are worth misses a lot of what goes into tailoring.

Having said that, you price in a way where you feel comfortable with the prices you quote to the customer, but also don't overburden yourself.

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NJ62 wrote:
What is problematic about the 3 c/p/u and 5 c/p/u figures is that this is what raw materials go for on the open market. You're not just selling raw materials. Here are other factors that need to be considered:

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I actually don't remember what exactly Syzygy used to make our list. Basically we set a high end (6k) a low end (500 creds) and set our cpu values so that everything fell within those limits. Everything is rounded to the nearest 250 creds, with nothing lower than 500 creds. I would say that our resources are somewhere between 10-20 c/p/u depending on what it is (high c/p/u for named resources and hides, lower for fiberplast etc). (And this price list is for Test Center where the prices are slightly lower than live).

Note: this is just an example of pricing. It may seem way too high or way too low to some tailors.

Item Price
Administrator's Robe 750
Ammo Bandolier 1250
Band 1750
Bangles 500
Belted Jacket 1000
Belted Skirt 1000
Belted Vest 1500
Bikini Leggings 1750
Black Leather Belt 750
Bounty Hunter Pack 1500
Bristle Hide Belt 500
Cargo Pocket 500
Cartridge Belt 1500
Casual Jacket 750
Casual Pants 500
Casual Shirt 500
Casual Shoes 500
Cloak 1500
Cloaked Dress 1500
Cold Weather Gloves 1000
Cold Weather Jacket 1000
Comfortable Slacks 3250
Councilman's Robe 1500
Crafter's Pants 1250
Crested Battle Padding 1250
Crested Neckpiece 500
Crested Vest 1500
Decorated Belt 750
Decorated Skirt 1500
Decorative Dress 1750
Decorative Headdress 1500
Decorative Vest 1000
Decorative Waist Wrap 1500
Desert Command Jacket 2000
Desert Crawlers 1000
Dignified Belt 1500
Doctor's Dress 2500
Double Robe 1500
Dress Blouse 750
Dress Robe 2250
Dress Shirt 500
Dress Shoes 1000
Dress Slacks 3250
Dress Slippers 1000
Dress Uniform Jacket 2250
Elegant Gemstone Necklace 1750
Elegant Gown 2500
Emerald Pendant 500
Exotic Leotard 4750
Exquisite Gown 2750
Fancy Belt 1500
Fashionably Pleated Skirt 1000
Fiberplast Panel 500
Fighter Flightsuit 4250
Flared Cuff Shirt 1500
Flared Jacket 1250
Flex-Form Shirt 750
Formal Gown 2500
Formal Shirt 500
Formfitting Undershirt 750
Frock 750
Gemstone Crest 2750
Genadier's Belt 1500
Golden Bracelet 1000
Golden Symbol 1000
Grand Ball Gown 4750
Grand Healer's Robe 4750
Grand Twi'lek Headpiece 3000
Gunman's Duster 1750
Headwrap 500
Heavy Crystal Symbol 1750
Heavy Flightsuit 4250
Heavy Gloves 1000
Heavy Reinforced Jacket 2000
Heavy Shoulder Pad 500
Hide Boots 750
High Quality Boots 1500
Hot Pants 1000
Immense Gemstone Necklace 4000
Infiltration Suit 3000
Infiltrator Leggings 2000
Intricate Dress 1500
Jewelry Setting 500
Labour Jacket 1000
Large Headwrap 1250
Large Pendant 500
Large Pocket Pants 1000
Leather Belt 500
Leather Gloves 500
Leather Trim Shirt 2000
Leather Work Gloves 500
Lekku Ys'rak 3000
Light Bustier 1250
Lined Shorts 2250
Lined Workshirt 750
Link-Steel Reinforced Gloves 1000
Long Formal Jacket 2250
Long Leather Gloves 1000
Long Uniform Gloves 1000
Long Vest 1750
Longsleeve Gown 2500
Longsleeve Shirt 750
Loose Dress 1500
Low-Cut Top 2000
Luxurious Gown 2750
Maiden's Dress 1000
Mangy Vest 1000
Mercenary Bandolier 1500
Metal Band 1000
Metal Bikini 2000
Metal Bracelet 500
Metal Fasteners 500
Metal Necklace 500
Military Travel Pack 750
Modest Skirt 1250
Multipocket Bandolier 1500
Multipocket Belt 500
Muscle Shirt 750
Noble Skirt 2250
Padded Jacket 1000
Padded Workpants 2000
Paneled Boots 1250
Pantaloons 2000
Paramilitary Camos 2000
Patterned Slip Dress 2750
Patterned Wookiee Gloves 750
Pilot's Jacket 2500
Plain Robe 500
Plain Shirt 500
Plain Short Robe 500
Plated Necklace 500
Pleated Dress 1750
Pleated Skirt 1250
Pocketed Shorts 1250
Pocketed Work Pants 750
Pullover 1000
Rank Sash 1250
Refined Skirt 2250
Reinforced Fiber Panel 500
Reinforced Jacket 1000
Reinforced Jumpsuit 3000
Reinforced Pants 2000
Reinforced Pullover 2500
Reinforced Work Shirt 750
Revealing Bikini 2000
Revealing Fleshwrap 6000
Revealing Top 2000
Ribbed Pants 1000
Ribbed Shirt 750
Robe 1500
Robe of Honor 5250
Rugged Jacket 1250
Sandals 1000
Scout Jacket 1000
Shoe Sole 500
Short Skirt 2000
Short Vest 1500
Short Wrap 3250
Shorts 500
Shortsleeve Jacket 500
Shortsleeve Shirt 500
Shoulder Strap 500
Sidebuttoned Shirt 750
Sigiled Waist Wrap 1000
Signet 1750
Silver Pendant 1750
Simple Shirt 500
Simple Vest 1000
Simple Waist Wrap 500
Simplified Belt 1500
Slacks 2250
Sleeveless Dress 1500
Sleeveless Jacket 2500
Small Bustier 1250
Small Pocket Belt 750
Smock 1500
Sneakers 1000
Soft Undershirt 750
Spec-Ops Duster 2000
Spec-Ops Pack 1500
Sports Bustier 1250
Sports Wrap 2000
Standard Boots 1000
Stately Necklace 2250
Strap Belt 500
Striped Pants 1000
Striped Pendant 500
Striped Slacks 1000
Sturdy Boots 750
Suit Belt 750
Suit Jacket 1250
Suit Shirt 1500
Sunguard 1250
Swoop Helmet 1000
Synthetic Cloth 500
Tactical Skinsuit 5000
Tech Pack 1000
Thermal Boots 2000
Thin Pleated Skirt 2250
Thin Striped Pants 1000
Tight Jacket 1000
Tipless Gloves 1000
Trader's Flightsuit 4250
Transport Flightsuit 4250
Travel Pack 1000
Tree-Dweller's Hood 500
Trim 500
Trim Lined Shirt 1500
Twi'lek Bone Crest 2000
Twi'lek Lekku Wrap 1750
Twi'lek Noble's Crest 2250
Two Pocket Belt 500
Two-Strap Bandolier 1500
Two-Tone Formal Skirt 1000
Uniform Boots 750
Utility Belt 500
Vested Jacket 1250
Warm Hat 1250
Weighted Waist Wrap 1500
Weighted Wookiee Hood 500
Weighted Wookiee Pullover 500
Widebuckle Belt 750
Women's Shoes 1000
Wookie Traveller's Helm 1000
Wookiee Arm Wraps 500
Wookiee Battle Padding 1250
Wookiee Hide Jerkin 500
Wookiee Padded Gloves 750
Wookiee Sage's Hood 1500
Wookiee Shoulder Pad 1750
Wookiee Smock 1500
Wookiee Strapped Gloves 1000
Wooly Jacket 1000
Wooly Shirt 2000
Work Slacks 750
Workman's Belt 500
Workman's Gloves 1000
Wrapped Boots 1000
Wrapped Skirt 500
Wrinkled Pants 500

Message Edited by NJ62 on 07-24-2004 09:47 AM

Ultimately, it's kind of up to your server what your prices should be. Your goal should be to sell a good amount, but to be able to keep up with demand. If you're constantly busy, and your vendor is always selling out, your prices are too low. If, after advertising and having a shop open for a few weeks, you're not selling much, your prices are too high.

There are two considerations: screwing over other tailors and your own workload. Ultimately, your own workload is more important. After all, there is a tailor shortage, and we don't want you to burn out and quit tailoring

Good luck Pricing is a lot of trial and error.