Tailor Archive

cause its umm.... "armor"

not tailor clothing

Ok, I'm currently working my way through tailoring and armorsmith, so I'm going to admit upfront that my views on this are going to be a little different from other tailors;

I'm all for multi-profession dependancy - though I can see the argument against it. Maybe what the game needs is a few players who are only component tailors?

As for the experimention in the tailor tree - that seems to be an on going bone of contention here. Personally, I like experimentation in the crafting professions, as it gives some crafters an edge over less experienced ones. Quite what the experimentation would actually do in the tailor proffession, I don't know.

In short, as people have already said, you are not obliged to make components, no matter what armorsmiths may tell you.

I'm sort of like Vesobe. I agree that the experiementation will give master tailors an edge over the tailors working up the tree, but this has always been my contention. Master Tailors SHOULD be able to do things better than lower level tailors. We have more colors, but because we lost experiementation a long while ago...we don't make any components better...and we should.

This doesn't truly affect me much as I'm both a Master Tailor and Master Armorsmith. I do recall a time when most armorsmiths bought their cloth and panels from tailors and some of us made a viable living from it. I'm glad to see that this may come back around again.

I'm surprised that more tailors aren't happy about it. I think its a step in the right direction.

My main problem with this particular thing is that it just doesn't make very much sense. Its a component that we can't use ourselves and thats is not very tailor-like to me. I've complained a lot about experimenation and how unfair it would be to us, but I should probably go and take that all back. I think there are some ways that we could add experimentation that would actually work and be beneficial to us. So I guess that what it comes down to for me is just social reasons for not wanting to make these segments. No one can force me to make anything that I don't want to, so I guess I should have no objections. I'm one of those people who likes people to be happy, so I have trouble saying no to a requests that are at least somewhat reasonable. I *really* don't want to bother with these, though, so I need to use this as an opportunity to get a thicker skin.. In the past a lot of armorsmiths have asked for schematics or cloth and when I said no they have whined, complained, threatened and insulted and quite a few times I have caved in. From now on, if they ask me for something and I say no, the next words out of their mouth better be, "Ok. Thank you anyway" or they go directly to my ignore list. If they go and tell their friends that I am a selfish little b*tch and people stop coming to me for clothes, then I guess I will have more time to do other things.

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Vesobe wrote:

I'm all for multi-profession dependancy - though I can see the argument against it. Maybe what the game needs is a few players who are only component tailors?

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I would love to see component only tailors, and if there are any on Lowca, please give me your names! I would be glad to send people in your direction so I have something better to say than "no, I won't make it for you". In exchange, it would be nice if you would give my name to people who want nice clothes! Now what would be really nice is if there was a title of "master textiler"....

My main problem is that it is a merely a componant. When I think of tailoring, I think of making wedding gowns, cool jackets, cropped funky tops, fluttering spring dresses,and leather pants. I guess my view of tailoring is far more grand than the Dev's.

I guess it's disappointing to think our class may become a lowly componant supplier and have no 'real' function in the bigger picture. If we could use the padded segment to make our BE clothes last longer, then I would be thrilled. However, it seems to serve no real purpose in the tailoring tree. In fact I enjoy making BE clothes, the new schematics and most of our other clothes. I do fashion shows and player weddings. That is my 'vision' of being a tailor, not selling some componants to an armorsmith. By the way I like the new coloring for the chefs clothing, they are so cute in light yellow, and pink. The yellow on these comes out great.

Plus, House limits are 250, these componants will require yet more special materials thatI simply don't have room for. With the advent of the special schematics, I seem to be over run with alot of materials, not to mention the stuff I have for vehicles and painting kits (the only 2 items I make from the master artisan box I have).

Tira-Musa Wrote:

2/ Its experimentable. Tailors usually don't have the best qualtiy resources so supplying these means that we need to go out and find appropriate hides and fibreplast to use to make them.

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Wire3k wrote:

Components are good money - and having them on my vendor for sale also means I don't have to take up precious storage space for my OWN supplies - I need some - I just pull them off the vendor.

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The thing to keep in mind in *any* discussion of component sales is "remember the pending vendor nerf." Until we hear that they're abandoning their plans, at some point, every component crate on your vendor is going to become one less article of clothing you're permitted to sell. Everything's going to come to a head when this nerf is implemented, with multiple factors converging to make our tailoring lives a *lot* more difficult.

My3 biggest problems with this is that only a few taliors on each server will make these so they will sell them at ungodly prices and those wookiees who want armor going to be paing like 2 or 3 times the price of comp where if the schemtics were in armorsmith the price wouldn't be so high

2nd that like other said armorsmith are going to hunt down talior i truly do see armor tracking taliors down to ask them to make these, then we they arn't that good or talior is charging to much the Armorsmith is going to get made and yell at the tailor and demand better stuff, see where i am going.

3rd, i would still like to have them if its was just and armor part if we used it at all like with the parts we sell to armorsmith, if we need this part or could add to any of our stuff i would be for it.

Message Edited by DrakeWindwalker on 03-29-2004 08:48 AM