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Thread: Choosing your own color on clothing

SargusQuintek
Thu May 20, 2004 1:33 pm
#1

Armorsmiths have it on composite armor. Why can't tailors have it on their clothes? One of the biggest problems for a tailor merchant is to stock enough color selections for their clothing. If the person who owns the item could choose their own color such as owners of composite do then it would make life alot simplier for tailors. Then we would only need to stock the items and just think you could do factory crates


The colors able to be chosen would be based on the creator's skill level. I think this is how armor works already for composite. It was supposed to be a temporary fix for a bug but it's still int he game. I personally like it. Realistically speaking people can dye their clothes in the real world. If it makes playing easier and means less time involved then I'm all for it. No more sitting with a customer for hours trying to get the color just right. Also if they want a different look, just choose a different color Stocking would be heaven. No more hand crafting the stuff.



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KyleKatan7
Thu May 20, 2004 2:07 pm
#2

yeah! that would rock
ArthurDentOnBria
Thu May 20, 2004 2:31 pm
#3






SargusQuintek wrote:

Realistically speaking people can dye their clothes in the real world.




LOL, that's classic.



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Tunturi
Thu May 20, 2004 3:56 pm
#4

I wouldnt mind if they allowed us tailors tomake a dye kit with like 8 uses or so that would allow other people to change the color of there clothes.... But before they do that they need to fix it so when clothes reach 0 condition its unwearable. As it is now, clothes last forever and if they allow people to change there own colors its going to kill the tailor bussiness. Only way i'm surviving right now is selling Bio Enhanced clothes, but my profit margin are thin on those since BE charge astronamical prices for there clothing bios. Good thing i'm a master armorsmith to or i'd be in the poor house if all i did was tailoring...


Personal I hate it that people can change the color on composite, reason i hate it is because i made a bunch of suits with my guild colors and gave the suits to guild members for basicaly free, within 2 days everyone had changed there colors of the armor and actually got mad at me when i said i wanted everyone to wear the guild colors...


Alciril
Thu May 20, 2004 4:01 pm
#5






SargusQuintek wrote:

If the person who owns the item could choose their own color such as owners of composite do then it would make life alot simplier for tailors. Then we would only need to stock the items and just think you could do factory crates




Ack! This is what I'm dreading. Armorsmiths provide goods, while tailors provide services (the clothes themselves are rather inexpensive to do, even in the case of master tailor items). We really do have much more in common with image designers than we do with armorsmiths.


That being said, allowing customers to choose their own colors after the clothes are made really cuts us out of the loop. And I know that I'm not speaking for all tailors, but I honestly enjoy sitting down with people, matching shades of colors, and getting them the look that they want. If people are able to buy all of the "popular" clothing pieces and switch colors on a whim, we're going to see even fewer tailors than there already are. Plus with the sorry state of decay, they'll never need to buy new clothes--especially since they still equip at 0 condition. The novelty of new outfits is the only thing that keeps us in business.



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NalfeinQ
Thu May 20, 2004 4:10 pm
#6






Alciril wrote:





SargusQuintek wrote:

If the person who owns the item could choose their own color such as owners of composite do then it would make life alot simplier for tailors. Then we would only need to stock the items and just think you could do factory crates




Ack! This is what I'm dreading. Armorsmiths provide goods, while tailors provide services (the clothes themselves are rather inexpensive to do, even in the case of master tailor items). We really do have much more in common with image designers than we do with armorsmiths.


That being said, allowing customers to choose their own colors after the clothes are made really cuts us out of the loop. And I know that I'm not speaking for all tailors, but I honestly enjoy sitting down with people, matching shades of colors, and getting them the look that they want. If people are able to buy all of the "popular" clothing pieces and switch colors on a whim, we're going to see even fewer tailors than there already are. Plus with the sorry state of decay, they'll never need to buy new clothes--especially since they still equip at 0 condition. The novelty of new outfits is the only thing that keeps us in business.




Bravo, well said. That is exactly the reason we do not want this.




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Kirranas
Thu May 20, 2004 5:26 pm
#7

Armour colour change only came into place due to the fact Sony reset all the armour colour to its base colour. In order to solve the problem Sony made this armour with a set colour command so the effected people could reset the colour. This lasted until the bug was solved about 2 months armour made during this time had this function, armour made after the 2 months no longer had the set colour command.


So if you can still alter the colour of your armour its quite and old set the new armour does not. Of course I stand to be corrected on this matter if an armoursmith knows other wise


Also giving the players the option to alter colours would harm our business the same way it did tailors. People have many reason's to buying new clothes. As clothes dont wear out to the point they cant be worn the biggest reason people purchase is for a new look. If they had the ability to change colours we would sell less not a good thing.


What I would like to see as like the ID system where on a one of one trade a player could see the item on their model including colour before it was made.





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Icyrilla
Thu May 20, 2004 6:31 pm
#8


I have often thought about something like whatKirranas suggested, with the ID thing implemented so the customercould view the color/s prior to completion. I have to agree leaving it totally to the customer would hurt us; I think our business suffers enough with the drastic drop in clothing prices from just a few months ago and the increase in cost of everything else. I also think clothing should poof at 0, or if it didn't, at least make it look nasty (ya right). What else can we do? We can't experiment. We're forced to make BE clothing to make a profit and even then, how much do you really make? Ok, I'm done.
Syzygy-Gorath
Thu May 20, 2004 6:40 pm
#9




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Space_Gunny
Thu May 20, 2004 10:45 pm
#10

While i don't agree with the idea of letting customers change the colors on their own; I do think the dye kit idea would be interesting. This would bring us more buisness as well as happier customers.



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SargusQuintek
Fri May 21, 2004 6:13 am
#11

By allowing your cutomer to choose their color you won't have to stock 100s of items to give a selection. It would also mean a customer can come to a vendor and make a quicker selection. I for one am tired of relisting items every month just to give a selection at my vendor.


New composite armor still has this function. I for one do not like sitting there wasting my time making 5 or 6 items just to get the color right for a customer. There are sides to every issue. What one person enjoys may not be what another does. The same is here. So that means a compromise needs to be reached.


How about giving the option to clothing to choose the color of the item at first purchase then have it become the set color? That way we can stock "uncolored" items and the customer can make the color choice upon first using it. They get to choose their color and be happy and we get to reduce vendor item count. It won't reduce repeat customers and in fact it might improve our profession because it will end the time it requires to satisfy a customer.





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RSteeler
Fri May 21, 2004 6:14 am
#12

Said before, saying again:


We have an entire skill branch dedicated to colors. We have to earn the right (spend the skill points) to get colors. Asking for non-tailors to be able to color clothing is like asking for non-BHs to be skilled with an LLC. Using advanced colors and making them match in an attractive outfit is the WHOLE POINT OF TAILORING.


If you want to color your own clothing, become a tailor.


I'm sorry if this comes across as gruff but I'm tired of hearing this same suggestion over and over again.



Raphe Steeler
TCON Crafting Division - Head Tailor
Master Tailor
Merchant
Rifleman
RSteeler
Fri May 21, 2004 6:17 am
#13

Sorry, Sargus, on cross posting I see that you are a tailor and I get your point.But Istill object to the "department store" view of the tailoring business. I just don't see how that would be fun in any way. Stocking blank slate clothing in the hundreds sounds the same as stocking crates of components. What's the point?



Raphe Steeler
TCON Crafting Division - Head Tailor
Master Tailor
Merchant
Rifleman
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