Tailor Archive

I've seen quite a few post with regards to priceing of items and such. I just went ahead and made a generic pricing for my tailored items. Now granted being the of the top if not the top tailor on my server, i could easily double the price and still make out why bother. I just want to gather some opinions as to which items should be adjusted in the below list and why. I am sure this will help alot of other tailors out as well

Master
[S] Revealing Bikini 7k
[S] Metal Bikini 7k
[S] Low-Cut Top 5k
[S] Revealing Top 5k
[S] Bikini Leggings 5k
[S] Transport Flightsuit 7k
[S] Trader's Flightsuit 7k
[S] Heavy Flightsuit 7k
[S] Fighter Flightsuit 7k
[S] Tactical Skinsuit 7k
[S] Revealing Fleshwrap 7k
[S] Exotic Leotard 7k
[S] Grand Healer's Robe 7k
[S] Grand Ball Gown 7k
[S] Robe of Honor 7k
[S] Twi'lek Noble's Crest 5k
[S] Lekku Ys'rak 5k
[S] Grand Twi'lek Headpiece 5k
[S] Gemstone Crest 3k
[S] Immense Gemstone Necklace 3k

Casual IV Casual III
[S] Wooly Shirt 900cr S] High Quality Boots 800cr
[S] Sports Wrap 900cr [S] Thermal Boots 700cr
[S] Leather Trim Shirt 900cr [S] Decorative Dress 700cr
[S] Reinforced Pullover 1k [S] Pleated Dress 700cr
[S] Shortsleeve Jacket 900cr [S] Double Robe 700cr
[S] Pilot's Jacket 1k [S] Cloak 2k
[S] Short Skirt 900cr [S] Robe x 1k
[S] Pantaloons 900cr [S] Warm Hat 800cr
[S] Belted Vest 900cr [S] Sunguard 800cr
[S] Crested Vest 900cr [S] Large Headwrap 800cr
[S] Short Vest 900cr [S] Light Bustier 800cr
[S] Long Vest 900cr [S] Small Bustier 800cr
[S] Twi'lek Bone Crest 1k [S] Sports Bustier 800cr
[S] Twi'lek Lekku Wrap 1k [S] Wooked Padded Gloves 800cr

Casual II
[S] Longsleeve Shirt 400cr Casual I
[S] Shortsleeve Shirt 400cr [S] Shoe Sole 200cr
[S] Flex-Form Shirt 400cr [S] Standard Boots 200cr
[S] Scout Jacket 400cr [S] Paneled Boots 200cr
[S] Belted Jacket 400cr [S] Cold Weather Gloves 200cr
[S] Tight Jacket 400cr [S] Tipless Gloves 200cr
[S] Striped Slacks 400cr [S] Wookie Strapped Gloves 200cr
[S] Desert Crawlers 400cr [S] Loose Dress 200cr
[S] Hot Pants 400cr [S] Pleated Skirt 200cr
[S] Simple Vest 400cr [S] Modest Skirt 200cr
[S] Pullover 400cr [S] Sneakers 200cr
[S] Mangy Vest 400cr [S] Sandals 200cr
[S] Heavy Shoulder Pad 400cr [S] Women's Shoes 200cr

Field Wear IV Field Wear III
[S] Paramilitary Camos 2k [S] Spec-Ops Pack 1.5k
[S] Infilitrator Leggings 1.5k [S] Mercenary Bandolier 700cr
[S] Cartridge Belt 1k [S] Two-Strap Bandolier 700cr
[S] Grenadier's Belt 1k [S] Multipocket Bandolier 700cr
[S] Heavy Gloves 1k [S] Heavy Reinforced Jacket 800cr
[S] Long Uniform Gloves 900cr [S] Spec-Ops Duster 3.5k
[S] Reinforced Jumpsuit 2k [S] Desert Command Jacket 1k
[S] Infiltration Suit 2k [S] Reinforced Pants 900cr
[S] Gunman's Duster 4k [S] Padded Workpants 800cr
[S] Crested Battle Padding2k [S] Decorated Belt 500cr
[S] Wookie Shoulder Pad 900cr

Field Wear II Field Wear I
[S] Reinforced Fibre Panel 400cr [S] Cargo Pocket 200cr
[S] Reinforced Work Shirt 400cr [S] Tech Pack 700cr
[S] Formfitting Undershirt 400cr [S] Sturdy Boots 200cr
[S] Lined Workshirt 400cr [S] Uniform Boots 200cr
[S] Pocketed Shorts 400cr [S] Swoop Helmet 200cr
[S] Crafter's Pants 400cr [S] Utility Belt 200cr
[S] Small Pocket Belt 400cr [S] Long Leather Gloves 200cr
[S] Workman's Gloves 400cr [S] Reinforced Jacket 200cr
[S] Link-Steel Reinforced Gloves 400cr [S] Cold Weather Jacket 200cr
[S] Ammo Bandolier 400cr [S] Patterened Wookie Gloves 200cr
[S] Rank Sash 400cr
[S] Bounty Hunter Pack 1000cr
[S] Wookie Battle Padding 400cr

Formal Wear IV Formal Wear III
[S] Exquisite Gown 2k S] Flared Cuff Shirt 700cr
[S] Patterened Slip Dress 1k [S] Trim Lined Shirt 700cr
[S] Luxurious Gown 1.5k [S] Suit Shirt 700cr
[S] Dignified Belt 900cr [S] Doctor's Dress 700cr
[S] Fancy Belt 900cr [S] Formal Gown 700cr
[S] Simplified Belt 900cr [S] Elegant Gown 700cr
[S] Long Formal Jacket 1k [S] Longsleeve Gown 700cr
[S] Dress Robe 1.2k [S] Silver Pendant 700cr
[S] Dress Uniform Jacket 1.2k [S] Heavy Crystal Symbol 700cr
[S] Stately Necklace 900cr [S] Elegant Gemstone Necklace 700cr
[S] Noble Skirt 1k [S] Band 700cr
[S] Refined Skirt 1k [S] Signet 700cr
[S] Thin Pleated Skirt 1k [S] Decorative Headdress 700cr
[S] Comfortable Slacks 1k [S] Slacks 700cr
[S] Dress Slacks 1k [S] Lined Shorts 700cr
[S] Short Wrap 1k [S] Decorative Waist Wrap 700cr

Formal Wear II Formal Wear I
[S] Jewelry Setting 400cr [S] Trim 200cr
[S] Robe 400cr [S] Sidebuttoned Shirt 200cr
[S] Cloaked Dress 400cr [S] Dress Blouse 200cr
[S] Formal Gown x 400cr [S] Strap Belt 200cr
[S] Suit Belt 400cr [S] Leather Belt 200cr
[S] Black Leather Belt 400cr [S] Bristle Hide Belt 200cr
[S] Widebuckle Belt 400cr [S] Plated Necklace 200cr
[S] Metal Band 400cr [S] Crested Neckpiece 200cr
[S] Golden Bracelet 400cr [S] Emerald Pendant 200cr
[S] Golden Symbol 400cr [S] Dress Shoes 200cr
[S] Vested Jacket 400cr [S] Dress Slippers 200cr
[S] Suit Jacket 400cr [S] Belted Skirt 200cr
[S] Flared Jacket 400cr [S] Fashionably Pleated Skirt 200cr
[S] Decorative Vest 400cr [S] Two-Tone Formal Skirt 200cr
[S] Decorated Skirt 400cr [S] Sigilied Waist Wrap 200cr
[S] Wookie Sage's Hood 400cr


Novice Tailor
[S] Military Travel Pack 500cr [S] Ribbed Shirt 100cr
[S] Synthetic Cloth 200cr [S] Weighted Waist Wrap 100cr
[S] Rugged Jacket 100cr [S] Wookie Traveller's Helm 100cr
[S] Plain Shirt 100cr [S] Smock 100cr
[S] Casual Shirt 100cr [S] Councilman's Robe 100cr
[S] Striped Pants 100cr [S] Sleeveless Dress 100cr
[S] Thin Striped Pants 100cr [S] Bangles 100cr
[S] Ribbed Pants 100cr [S] Metal Bracelet 100cr
[S] Padded Jacket 100cr [S] Formal Shirt 100cr
[S] Wooly Jacket 100cr [S] Dress Shirt 100cr
[S] Workman's Belt 100cr [S] Metal Necklace 100cr
[S] Leather Work Gloves100cr [S] Large Pendant 100cr
[S] Large Pocket Pants 100cr [S] Striped Pendant 100cr

Everything looks TOO low to me. If nothing else you've got to ask yourself, "Is it worth crafting 3 Syn Clothes, a Metal Fastener, and a Smock, just for 100 credits? No, it's not. If you're not subscribing to pricing things at the level at which consumers will pay (which everyone should be doing, in my opinion), then you at least need to price things to an extent where you'll be spending your time wisely. Heck, I'd buy 100 Smocks off you for that price just to fill my vendor.

Nice list you have there, but way too low. I sell master items for 15k each, 10k for the smaller pieces. Fleshwraps alone take a ton of resources to make. I can only make a few a day unless I would buy the resources.

I don't know much about pricing things because I just hit novice today.. .but I will say that 200 for S. Cloth is inconsistant with 100 for a smock which requires 3 S. Cloth, 30 fiberplast and a metal fastener.

By those numbers alone, it should be 600 + 60 for the fiberplast (@ low low 2 cred/unit) + 30 for Metal.

That's 690 minimum.

Doubling would be a start. Tripling would be more to the point. Pricing so low leaves zero room at the bottom for newbie tailor wannabes to unload artisan-level gear. Heck, Iused to charge1000 cr for artisan jackets for as long as could get away with it, and I could still squeeze 800 out of one on a good day.

Krevix,

I sell smocks for 150 credits. Contact me in game for an order of 100 if you're interested.

150cr for a smock? What?! Theres "good" pricing and there's "plain stupid" pricing, I know what I'd consider that price.

Just coz you have unlimited funds and a factory doesn't mean the rest of us do. Undercutting by 50-90% is insane!

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Kylania wrote:

150cr for a smock? What?! Theres "good" pricing and there's "plain stupid" pricing, I know what I'd consider that price.

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You are entitled to your opinion. I'm making a nice profit if he accepts this order.

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Kylania wrote:

Just coz you have unlimited funds and a factory doesn't mean the rest of us do.

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How does your situtaion affect me? Should I destroy my factories so we can be equal? Maybe I should come to your house and give you frere resources so we're on an equal playing field? Maybe we should start a welfare program so that your condition in game can be the overiding factor in how the game is run? It's called *COMPETITION*. If you don't like it, that's just plain tough.

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Kylania wrote:

Undercutting by 50-90% is insane!

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Undercutting what? Certainly not my resource costs. They come in at less than a credit. Perhaps there's a "tailoring price authority" i'm not aware about? No? Trade regulators from the Imperial Government? No. What's that? I'm undercutting your *PERSONAL* pricelist? Well pardon me. Send me a complete list and I promise never to go under it. *HONEST*

Undercutting is one thing - that profit-maximizing firms do all the time in real life. What we see in the game sometimes is more akin to "dumping" in economic terms - selling things at a loss, in order to drive competitors out of business.

Now, in reality, dumping doesn't actually occur, because it's basically stupid - yeah, you might be able to drive some competitor out of business, but you'll have to sell your wares at profit-making prices eventually, and there's nothing to prevent future competition.

The problem in SWG is the amount of "free" (or nearly so) money in the game. It's quite possible for a crafter to completely finance himself by simply spending an hour a day on easy missions. And the crafter can sell his stuff at a pittance, because he's not *dependent* on his business being profitable to survive. Obviously, things don't work like that in real life. Henry Ford didn't grind and destroy hundreds of Model T's every day until he could make Ford Mustangs, and keep himself solvent by delivering packages or hunting bears for an hour every day. But that's a feasible scenario in the game.

And if you want to do that, fine, I suppose. But it'd be nice if you think about people who are pursuing their craft *as* a business, and not as a hobby. If you want to play the crafting game as a grind-and-level machine, please just destroy the fruits of your grinding instead of selling them at a loss and taking business away from the actual businessmen in the game.

Sue, I'm not dumping a thing. Someone offered to buy 100 units. I'm offering to fill that order.

My "grinded" items never show up on the market.

OMG you are way, way, way too low! You could sell your raw resources for much much more!!!

I easily sell smocks for 1K on the same day I list them. Level II formal I sell for 2.5 - 3.5K, and Level III formal for 4 - 5K and up!

Elek

FYI: They are my own harvesters, my own hides, and my own money.

If you can afford to pay 3 credits per resources, you could afford to get *SIX* times the resources by paying that same money into machinery to do it yourself.

It's not my fault you rely on bazaar purchased resources. The *TOTAL* cost of running my havesters, including wind generators, is 0.55 credits per resource. If you *choose* to buy instead of farm them, it's not my fault you can't compete.

You decided to buy them. You decided to deal with the middle man mark up. Don't cry to me that it's too expensive for you.

As far as my time, I'm making at least 100% markup on my resource costs. That's 100% profit that goes towards my time. I don't feel it's nessesary to charge a 2000% markup just to make the "generally accepted worth" crowd feel good.

You're welcome to continue selling as you wish, don't expect me to match your prices like a medieval guild member.

Oh and about this statement:

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Kylania wrote:

It's unfair of you, as a scout/whatever, to come in here and say "It only costs me 1.5cr" and totally disregard all the other costs that tailors have as if they don't matter.

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You *CHOSE* not to get any scouting skills and to rely on buying hides. The good thing is that this skill system allows you to get the scouting skills for yourself if you'd like. Once again it's a case of "Not my fault" your chosen skill set isn't as competative.