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Thread: End of the Month Report (April) plus a quarterly review

Alliaya
Wed May 12, 2004 5:30 am
#1

Well hello everyone. For those of you who remember the last two posts I did on this, here's a third. These are my end of the month figures for April and I went ahead and gave in to my obcession and even did a quarterly report since my tracking numbers have now spanned three months.


April's business report:


For those not familar with me, I'm Valina, and I'm s-l-o-w-l-y working my way through master tailor on Tarquinas. I have a vendor placed in our guild's "Mini-Mall" outside of Coronet and for April had a vendor in our "Main Mall" in the boon-docks about 5k west of Moenia, just outside a large player city. I track my vendor and bazaar sells each month and post my results here.


So, here we go. April was not a good month. Our guild closed the main mall on Dantooine (which had just begun to do regular business for me) and moved to Naboo (which seemed like a good idea for me at the time as Naboo is the home world for the clothing whores of our server). This move drastically reduced my numbers for this month as I am starting over in building a customer base.

I sold a total of 93 items this month, very poor showing. Generated a total of 213,300 in revenue, spent 88,000 in expenses, and netted a grand total of 125,300 profit. I'm sad to say these numbers are much lower than last month.


The problems: the move didn't help at all. Old customers from Dantooine were not willing to make the hike to Naboo just to buy my clothing, can't blame them for that, and new customers on Naboo bought items up faster than I could stock them on the bazaar in Theeds, but were not willing to head down to the swampy southern regions of Naboo to visit my vendor. My fully stocked Vendor in our main mall, sold a whooping 3 items this month. The other 90 items were all sold on my Coronet vendor or the bazaar in Theed. The Corvette, sigh. Once the Corvette opened I must have run it 15 times {beat it four times, but only got two of the three badges so far }. I had way too much fun w/ this dungeon and it occupied a lot of my time, time that I negelected my tailoring business.


The solution: I have closed down the vendor in our PA Hall, no point wasting maintence fees on a vendor selling only three items for the month. We opened a "Mini-Mall" outside of Theed and I am in the process right now of stocking it. I leveled up in tech and am now 4-4-3-3 in tailor and almost ready to level up again, master here I come. The deathwatch bunker is coming up, I must remember to limit my time spent on this mission this month, so I don't negelect my business this month like I did in April.


Hot Sellers for April:

1) Sandals: these have been going like hot cakes this month on the Bazaars, sold a total of 11!

2) Men's Dress shoes: sold 6

3) Thin Stripped Pants: sold 5

4) Pocketed Work Pants (Labled Men's Cargo Pants): sold 4

Modest Skirt (Labled Men's Tapistry Skirt): sold 4

Cloaked Dress: sold 4

Long Sleeve Shirt: sold 4

Small Bustier: sold 4

Sports Bustier: sold 4

High Quality Boots: sold 4


The big suprise for me was the number of Sandals I sold in April, couldn't keep them on the Bazaar, and no what what color I made them in, they all sold. Colors like Green, Gold, and that weird blue shade we have on that palatte, took a day or two to sell, but they sold. I even sold a pair of pink ones the same day I posted them. Just as an FYI, they are still selling like crazy this month. Not sure if this is just our server at the moment, but any of you who are not selling them, drop a few on the Bazaar in Theed and see what happens.


Anyway, so that's how April looked, hoping w/ the new shop outside of Theed May will be a bit better. The quarterly numbers broke down with: 285 items sold; 626,800 revenue generated; 156,000 in expenses; and a total net profit for the quarter of 470, 800.


List toppers for hot sells for the quarter:


1) Sandals: 16 sold

2) Shorts (Labled Go-Go Shorts): 13 sold

3) Sports Bustier: 12 sold

4) Men's Dress Shoes: 11 sold

5) Two-Toned Formal Skirt: 10 sold


So, that ends my report. Hope the newer tailors out there will find this helpful, thank you to all the vet tailors out there who have been helping me along. I got a little discouraged in April and actually thought about giving Tailor up, but that was just a mood. I'm back in full force now and loving every minute of it. See y'all next month.



-Valina Eco
-Proud Member of R (Resurrected)
-Master Tailor
-Theed Shop: -5203, 3371 (Going out of business)
Coronet Shop: -179, -5505 (Going out of business)
MoraninGlory
Wed May 12, 2004 6:32 am
#2

I found the report on your move incredibly helpful. My PA is presently considering a move from our city abt 2km north of Dee'ja Peak, 3km SE of Keren to a small city on Lok, 5km in the middle of *nowhere* and while I'm guessing that my sales would be poor there, it is interesting to see a similar experience occur, but somewhat in reverse (adventure planet to a starter planet).


Best of luck to you on Naboo, it's a lovely place.



Moranin Glory




Master Tailor

Master Artisan

Novice Rifleman

ex-Master Dancer, Entertainer, Merchant

CORE Recruitment Officer

Shop locations on Naboo, Corellia and Talus

Songe
Wed May 12, 2004 6:40 am
#3

It's pretty discouraging really... I'm not surprised that so many tailors get fed up and quit.



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NJ62
Wed May 12, 2004 8:12 am
#4

Yay thanks for sharing!!! Being on TC, I lose track of how businesses are doing on Live (I login to at least 20+ emails a day /sigh, no advertising, and I'm swamped!) That's just something I can't effectively test being on TC - the Live economy. This was very very helpful.



n'Jessi
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Songe
Wed May 12, 2004 8:40 am
#5

As I posted in the other thread... I sell an average of 10 items a day to give you an idea. It's not really what it used to be, I would guess lots of people don't bother going to player cities for clothes, unless they just happen to be there or your vendor is in a mall.



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Aynianu
Wed May 12, 2004 9:46 am
#6

Im not sure how many i sell a day, its kind of random tho, id say 10-50, depends who i have in that day really, ive been getting steadily busier lately tho

ArthurDentOnBria
Wed May 12, 2004 10:21 am
#7



I always enjoy reading your reports


I've faced a similar situation. The player city I used to be in folded, as the mayor quit the gameand everybody left. Then I moved to another city, where pvp ruled the day, and my sales were absolutely horrible there (probably 2-3 items per day from my clothing vendor), everybody runs around in composite and nobody wants clothing, and then the mayor there quit too, lol, so now I've had it with player cities and I moved to Kaadara and am setting up shop there, and partnering with some friends to do our own shop. I don't know how successful it will be, but at least now I have more control over it, and my success is no longer tied to the fate of a player city in the middle of nowhere.


Bazar sales continue to soar though, and thank goodness for that, otherwise I'd be completely sunk. I'm able to gross several hundred k a week on the bazar with minimal effor so I'm able to stay afloat.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 05-12-2004 10:24 AM



ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


Milarella
Thu May 13, 2004 9:27 am
#8

My guild forced me to move from my nice, established shop on Naboo, right when I was finally getting up some momentum and finally feeling like I could reach that goal of having all the different clothing types available, in at least 5 different color choices (on the really crappy palattes) and sometimes up to 30 color choices (on some of the really nice clothes). On the really popular items, I would have 5 blacks and 2 each of my popular colors (metallics, white, gray, etc.). I was to the point where I was restocking 10-50 items each time I logged in (every couple of days or so) and I would still have time to craft 100 new items or so a day.


Then my guild got too anxious with their player city envy. Well, I really should say two members of the guild got that way, and the rest are persuadable. That's not anything against them in any way. Most people are easily persuaded by the strongly opinionated, and that's just how they are. I've been in this guild for 3 1/2 years now; I know how people are and would never fault them for it. But those two members were very persuasive in their tales of how great and wonderful player cities are, and, despite his efforts, my guild leader was unable to convince them otherwise. One of them moved, very quietly and discretely. That was fine with me, I know that all "shiny" things in MMOs will be far too tempting for some, and fully expected one or two to move. But the other...he wasn't happy with moving on his own. He sent out a mass e-mail, telling everyone of the wonders of this new city and persuading everyone to move with him. So, we all moved. I had no choice; I share a house in game with my RL boyfriend, and he had already started moving before he even talked to me about it


So we moved to the place the furthest from the bright center of the universe. We moved to the place that drove Anakin and Luke to the dark side. We moved to the most bland, most depressing rock in all of the galaxy. All for a bugged crafting bonus and a faction base. I stopped making new items. In order to make it up to me that he hadn't even discussed the move with me first, my boyfriend promised he would move all my items on all my vendors for me. It took him about a month to do that, all the while I wasn't making any new product at all. Once the vendors got established again, I was overwhelmed with backed up restocking, and began to dread making clothes, as I don't mind making a few restock items, but I really detest that being all I do. I never finished. The town starting having problems; the mayor wanted to start letting rebels in, so he got voted out. Then the new mayor dropped his skills before the guy that wanted to take his place got enough votes. We almost lost the city completely. Then the new new mayor wanted to move the city, because half of it encompasses a no-build zone. The two members that pushed the guild to move in the first place quit the guild, and all the members that had listened to them back then started to complain we should move back.


I stopped getting business. At first, my business was better than ever in the new city. Even without advertising, and with my shop name unable to be changed because the person that placed it to help us move never logs in to transfer ownership. Now I get one or two sales a week. I've stopped restocking, and have lost all enthusiasm for tailoring. During the move, I even bought a second account because I didn't want to quit but was stuck unable to play for a month. I made a BE/Fencer. I want to level her, but I get so much better exp when I make cloth out of her treatments, and I just don't want to make clothes right now.


How am I suppsed to be a tailor in such a nomadic guild?
NJ62
Thu May 13, 2004 9:40 am
#9

A similar thing happened to me: my guild liked it on Talus, but I was in the middle of nowhere, with no social contact, nobody in the cantina. Yes, I had a great shop location, the only one on Talus, right near an entertainer town - and I was bored silly. I ended up opening a second shop on Dantooine, in a town full of entertainers, bustling with action, and with some of my best clients (poor things had been coming from Dant to Talus to buy clothes).


When my guild went under, I ended up moving to Dantooine permanently, but my point is that you can have your shop wherever you want, and not necessarily in your guild's town.



n'Jessi
former correspondent, former player

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Milarella
Thu May 13, 2004 11:24 am
#10

Yes, I know I can set up my shop anywhere I want. But my guild is my family. I've been with them, in one game or another for 3 1/2 years. I know most of the ones that are left on SWG in real life. The guild leader is my real life boyfriend. He and I share a shop and share a house. Even though I wanted to stay on Naboo, I had no choice in the matter. He had already started to move by the time I found out what was going on. I was tempted to put up my own house, and stay there on Naboo. But we were outside of Keren, which might have been popular when we first built, but has since become a ghost town. The only reason people had to come to where we used to be was because our entire guild was there, with our PA hall as a mall, and some shops in various houses nearby as well.
ArthurDentOnBria
Thu May 13, 2004 11:26 am
#11






NJ62 wrote:


When my guild went under, I ended up moving to Dantooine permanently, but my point is that you can have your shop wherever you want, and not necessarily in your guild's town.




This is the conclusion that I've come to as well. Unless the guild town is crafter-centric, and doing big-time commerce, it's death to put your vendor there. I've *finally* learned that lesson. I may very well join another guild, but my shop stays right where it is, where I can actually get business and not worry about the whims of the restless pvp crowd.




ArthurDent - former Bio Engineer, Tailor, and Droid Engineer
Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
custom tailoring and droid orders welcome. "making Evil products since July 2003"
Achiever: 80%, Explorer: 60%, Socializer: 46%, Killa 13%


MasterJian
Thu May 13, 2004 9:41 pm
#12

/smile

I love your reports.. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us and hang in there..



*--*--*--seki---*--*--*---Master Tailor---*--*--*---Master Merchant---*--*--*---Master Artisan--*--*--* -- Valcyln
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-Hanging out on the forums until I see enough improvement to make me want to play again, or I get pissed off enough to cancel-//Thunderheart said: So for the cost of two skill trees, players are getting full pet access. That bargain is too good to be true and it demeans the CH profession because they work through the whole tree without being rewarded much of an advantage.BLAH! TELL IT TO THE MERCHANTS!






Mystyrys
Thu May 13, 2004 11:19 pm
#13

I applaud your efforts at tracking sales and the ways and means and fads. Great information! I wish I had the motivation to do the same, and the time. I guesstimate for the most part, or will track vendor sales/cashflow for a few days and then go back to being lazy. Your businesss seems to be growing steadily, and if traffic patterns of customers don't alter suddenly, it should continue and gain you loyal customers that will follow you should you choose to ever move again.


As for tracking sales, I keep a rough tally of weekly expensesand income. I check my bank balance on Monday, andafter my last large contract order delivery on Saturday, I note mybank balance on Sunday morning (allowing for bank lagged credits to arrive).Some days I do 500-700k, some days I do diddly squat, lol! But I average 500k a week off 3 vendors plus custom orders. One regular, one wookiee only, one crates. (My expenses run about 3/4ths of my income per week, so it's a slow, steady gain.)


The player city I am in is in a great location just outside Espa and near the Squill Caves and gets tons of traffic. We are also neutral and crafter-centric. (We have a mixture of citizens, mostly Rebel, Neutral and a few Imperials.) Almost all the merchants and shops are within sight of the shuttleport, including an expanding merchant tent bazaar right in front of it. The Mayor also recently set up a City Directory merchant tent with a vendor listing the city's merchants, professions, waypoints and listed details. That helped a lot. And citizens do not have to belong to the guild to live there, so we have several non-guilded or other guild citizensas well. It works out really nicely.


I recently moved out of my large house/shop that was within sight of the port and set up all over again in one of the merchant tents. My sales increased dramatically, especially crates sales. People waiting on that shuttle drop in to browse and impulse shop! It's all good. And now I don't have quite so much space and effort tied up in shop decor or maintenance and freed up lots for more tents and other things. (I am merchant host for all the tents in the city at this time) And now all my decor is in my personal home and I can focus on keeping my vendors stocked and am always within /shout distance of the business district.


Cutting to the chase... moving is hard work. Making a move takes a lot of consideration and planning. And weighing the pros and cons. And sometimes you just have to try it and see if it succeeds or fails. So far, my latest move seems to have been a good idea. I needed to consolidate from multi-planet locations and large shop upkeep, and cut down on time-consumingmicro-managing type tasks, and the tent filled the bill for me.


It will be very interesting to see your second quarterly report.


Qitu






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