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Thread: Swordsman + Rifleman?

TyrrV
Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:37 pm
#1

will Swordsman and Rifleman be a decent combination? all thoughts and opinions are welcome. thanks in advance.



Tierk Dustrider
Somewhere on Tatooine
CaptMorgan
Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:40 pm
#2

yup, a lot of people are jumping on that bandwagon - shoot head at long range, smack head close up. Pretty lethal combo.




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TyrrV
Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:43 pm
#3

woohoo! i get a cookie cutter combo!



Tierk Dustrider
Somewhere on Tatooine
bubbafoot
Tue Aug 26, 2003 1:37 pm
#4

i am an imperial swordsman and rifleman, and i believe it is a wonderful profession. I would reccomend it to anyone aspiring to serve the emperor. if ever in tatooine on tarquinas /tell monane



Monane Eanyu


Apprentice Swordsman, loyal to the Empire

Nagorak
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:32 pm
#5

If you're going to be using styles in PvE, then it's useful. However, if you're just going to be grouping most of the time or if you don't use styles much (I don't), then it's not a good combination. Rifle range and melee range are too far apart to benefit one another: there's too much of a gray area in between where neither is useful. Rifles are good for the whole mind/mind thing, but Carbines are a better complement for melee in general. So, it depends exactly what you want to do.
Hydez
Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:05 am
#6

How would u guys build your rifleman/swordsman template?
NukeOperator
Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:56 am
#7

How about:


Master Rifleman


Master Swordsman


Novice Scout [3,0,2,0](Terrain negotiation and bonus to hit creatures)


Novice Medic [0,0,3,0](Able to use Stim Pack C's that have beenexperimented to medicine use 30)


250 skill points

Hydez
Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:39 am
#8

Hm I think master brawler would be better than master swordsman. Need lunge 2 for the knockdown in pvp to stop ppl from running away.
IdrisTycho
Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:12 am
#9

I started out as Novice Swordsman, Novice Rifleman with some Scout and Medic thrown in. However, in my mind Rifleman turned out to be a red herring. It's a shame too because I invested a lot of time into it.


The exp gains were slow, the rifles weren't available, the damage taken at close range is ludicris, the inaccuracy at close and medium range abysmal, and the walking/running while carrying a rilfe extremely slow. All this made for a VERY unenjoyable experience for me. Ranged weapons can be fun, but rifle just wasn't fun.


I realize this is purely subjective. Some people will like the long range mind bleeds and headshots. But for me the strategy of Rifleman consisted of learning to mindshot, headshot, warning shot, headshot, warningshot, ...ad infinitum. While its a powerful combo, it just isn't very exciting and is slow going.


In the end I gave up all of marksman (hell i was practically master marksman too!) to get Doctor. Now I am actually having fun :-) By the way, from my experience Stim Cs do not require experimentation to get the medical use rating down to 30. However Stim Ds do require experimentation to get the med use down to 40. Pharm IV is a must for people who just want a little bit ofmedic.


Idris Tycho


Master Swordsman/Doctor Tarquinas

jmatt
Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:16 am
#10

I started out as Novice Swordsman, Novice Rifleman with some Scout and Medic thrown in. However, in my mind Rifleman turned out to be a red herring. It's a shame too because I invested a lot of time into it.


The exp gains were slow, the rifles weren't available, the damage taken at close range is ludicris, the inaccuracy at close and medium range abysmal, and the walking/running while carrying a rilfe extremely slow.


I'm the same template and it works great for me. The trick is to make your rifle, scout and swordsman skills work together.


Go prone, plug three or four rifle shoys from 65m. As the beast charges toward you, stand and throw a glow wire trap (melee debuff), when he's at 5m switch to sword and finish him off.


You may have been grinding rifleman and hence were reluctant to switch to traps and swords. Dont grind. Play it natural and it all comes together on its own. I would never use rifle at less than 30m,that is ludicrous!

BoyOfLight
Wed Aug 27, 2003 5:47 pm
#11

my fault i yeled at him till he gave up rifles for doctor..he never used rifle when iw as with him ( alot of the time ) and he was healing all the time...and he did it..and i think he likes it..




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