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Thread: I'm sure this has been said before, but I want to re-emphasize

KaliMirchi
Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:08 am
#1

getting xp in ranged vs melee is. I don't expect to be 'equal' to ranged; we each have our strengths/weaknesses. But this is ludicrous.



I am a Novice Fencer, Swordsman, and Carbineer, with each profession at the same exact level. On two nights running, I've joined a group of similarly leveled individuals, to hunt voritors on Dantooine. I have noticed consistently that the xp with the two Brawler professions is MUCH less than with the carbine. And the damage/HAM cost/ risk of being poisoned is incomparable with that of ranged. So, in other words, I sustain HUGE amounts of damage, get poisoned, use TONS more HAM, all to GET LESS XP!


What theheck is up with this?



If I use a carbine to take down a voritor- I get anywhere from 1500-2000 xp. A two - handed sword yields about 800-1000 xp. A one handed sword: 500 xp!!!!!! PLUS the damage I do as a melee isn't THAT much more than I can do with a special move with my carbine... at much less HAM cost.



There *is* some downtime with melee, as you back off to get healed, that you don't have with the carbine. But it's minimal with the awesome combat medic we have. We as melee NEED to have BETTER defense against MOBs. We NEED to have LOWER HAM costs- or at LEAST inflict DAMAGE that is in PROPORTION to that HAM cost!!!!



Devs- This isn't a 'whine'. I'm not doing to 'quit' unless you fix this. I LOVE this game AND my character. But please please please



WE NEED MELEE LOVE!



Seena Lonewalker.




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

xakia
Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:45 am
#2

Errr what? In all my experiences I've been the exp hog. When I was a pistoleer my TK friend was the exp hog...





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KaliMirchi
Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:23 am
#3

::shrug::



That's my experience on our sever - Flurry. A TKA novice I fought with last night made the same observation.




Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

Shrei
Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:31 am
#4

When teaming with a master marksmen, novice pistoleer, novice rifleman, I get over three times as much xp for each kill. I'm a 1201 swordsman.



Shrei Bastille
Ahazi - Alliance - Swordsman, Doctor
KaliMirchi
Tue Aug 26, 2003 9:39 am
#5

perhaps it's the swordsman difference?



Because the Novice TKA had the same problem, I know it's not a bug with me personally.



The only other thing, that I didnt consider, is perhaps the lizards have a high kinetic defense...



But that still doesnt account for the huge difference in HAM and that, as melee we are at much higher risk for poisoning..etc...



Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

Shrei
Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:09 am
#6

Before the upcoming KD nerf, do the following. Get offense 1 for the area attack 1 special. Stock up on tatooine sunburn. Go to dantooine, and get the huurton missions that pay 9k (I think it's the huntresses). When you approach the lair, drink two sunburns. Remove all armor (you won't want incumberance for this). Run up to the lair and spam the hell out of the area attack. I soloed 5 huntresses without getting hit. The posture down affect had them immobilized. The sunburn enables you to do your specials non-stop (make sure your willpower is decent, since some mind is also used). 20k xp per lair (including creatures), plus the 9k mission reward. I just discovered this last night. I hope it takes a few days for the KD nerf.



Shrei Bastille
Ahazi - Alliance - Swordsman, Doctor
Nagorak
Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:34 pm
#7

My experience is that I'm an EXP hog too...but I keep it to myself. When fighting with groups of people much higher up with ranged weapons, I'll still outdamage them and get more exp individually.
KaliMirchi
Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:36 pm
#8

heheheh thanks for the tip Shrei... I'll be sure to try that!






Seena




SYRI, Mistress of Melee. Serious Melee Weapons for Intelligent Meleers. It ISN'T always about Damage!
I've been a successful melee combatant since launch. I know melee.
Short ride SE of Coronet. 804 - 5348

TheCrazyAZNRocker
Tue Aug 26, 2003 10:29 pm
#9

Man i know that feelin, friends are getting 3000 Exp, when you manage 100. Personally, I think the whole entire group Exp is complete garbage.
Shrei
Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:15 am
#10

After doing the huurton thing a bit more last night, I have some additional observations. First, speed makes a difference. I have technique 2, but using a speed powerup was even more effective. Otherwise, sometimes you can't hit them fast enough and they get in a decent amount of attacks. Second, it can take a few hits on each one before the posture down affect is in full swing, so you will get hit at first. So set up a macro to equip and de-equip your armor. Keep the armor on when you attack, and after they have mobbed you, and you have gotten 2-3 swings on each one, hit your macro to remove your armor. The main reason for this is all armor impairs mind, and this becomes the limiting stat.



Shrei Bastille
Ahazi - Alliance - Swordsman, Doctor
Nagorak
Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:04 pm
#11

Is there some reason this can only be done on Huurtons instead of Baz Nitches or just about anything else?
Shrei
Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:12 pm
#12

I haven't tried Baz Nitches yet. Any higher level creature that swarms, but is still manageable will work. I welcome suggestions on other good prey!



Shrei Bastille
Ahazi - Alliance - Swordsman, Doctor
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