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Thread: Why Fencer?

spyles78
Sat May 22, 2004 7:51 am
#1

This is not meant to be derisive. I'm seeing a lot of Swordsmen also mastering Fencer, or at least grabbing more boxes from it than would account for mere defense stacking, and was wondering what the advantages are. Maybe I should start at explaining my situation.

I'm:
Master Swordsman
Master Rifleman
TKA 4/4/0/4
(with 4 skill pts left I can't really use)
--This give me 122 melee def and 132 ranged def.
and full use of ranged/melee dmg mitigation

But with this template I have zero healing ability (and that new stim droid is next to worthless). I always steered clear of mastering more than one melee prof cause I never saw the advantage (seeing as how you need to switch weapons to take advantage of the other masteries, I figured I'd just use the defenses and whatnot from the tree and just keep using my sword).

Is master Fencer better in PvP? Is it worth it just for the stun batons? (still never seen a melee kinetic dmg weapon that matches my scythes... [2.6 speed, 295-505 dmg just so you know]
Can any of you Fencer/Swordsmen out there tell me how it is; and if possible how it might compare to my Swordsman/Rifleman template? Any info is appreciated.
AriasImmortal
Sat May 22, 2004 9:41 am
#2

I thought fencer was worth it... I've been health incapping people more often than not in PvP



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Fallsguy
Sun May 23, 2004 4:47 am
#3

I am not mastering but I am using it with TKA and Master Brawler for more defensive skills so I can cap themelee defense & be at near cap forranged defense.


Not to mention high defenses against stun, blind, KD






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Ufgood-Zep
Sun May 23, 2004 4:57 am
#4

Instead of the 4404 TKA you might want to go with 4400 fencer and pick up novice medic, its sexay, how can you resist.



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Cocomono
Sun May 23, 2004 9:54 am
#5

I gotta agree with the topic poster and wonder what is the appeal of fencer. I'd rather do mind damage than stun damage. Master Pike I could see picking up for the KD and insane DoTs, but master fencer with swords seems so worthless.



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MannyCalevera
Sun May 23, 2004 2:00 pm
#6

Well at the moment scatter hit 2 in fencer is bugged... seems to ignroe dmg mitigation in pvp, with am acklay stun baton you can do crazy damage with it, and with the abundance of 80+% comp it can outdamage swords in pvp



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AriasImmortal
Sun May 23, 2004 4:24 pm
#7

well, after i picked up fencer i haven't found a swordsman who could beat me 1v1.

scatterhit2 with fencer ignores mitigation and toughness, and also does mind damage as well. You can see the appeal.



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Dafim
Mon May 24, 2004 4:25 am
#8

i was master fencer with ranged meee def of tkm and 4/4/4/0 doc

im now dropping fencer for swordsman to do a bit of pve for loot, defensively fencer is better, but against someone who is serious at pvp fencer deals no damage, yet to see how swordsman goes, but its awesome for pve



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notrom
Mon May 24, 2004 5:49 am
#9

master fencer comes in hand during times you need stun damage, seeing that we have 2 damage types (blast and kinetic ) and i think heat on the way, its always good to add a stun in there, sure would make it easier to kill a nightspider web weaver. also when using fencer your dodge is outrageous. i was a master fencerfor a while and would dodge disease, poison, comandos, force powers.



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Cocomono
Mon May 24, 2004 5:56 pm
#10






Dafim wrote:
but against someone who is serious at pvp fencer deals no damage



This is why I don't see an advantage to having fencer with swordsman, either one or the other, but mastering both won't do much.




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AriasImmortal
Mon May 24, 2004 7:19 pm
#11

/shrug, i have a 317 max acklay baton, i've fought people wearing 40% stun armor and 45% stun imp PSGs, i still do massive damage. The only time i haven't is when i fought someone using synthsteak, and that only lasts for a limited amount of attacks.



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comandobob
Tue May 25, 2004 12:38 pm
#12

ok im master Swordman and fencer bralwer , tka 4002 pike0030 , now ive no medic and , find this combo great , i use mainly Swordman in PVP now since im capped on speed , but i use fencer to dizzy , lunge 2 them then hit there mind with headhit 3 it alway works are if you have a group attacking Area dizzy with fencer then Area KD with pike , my defence's are very high , and i love this combo as it works very well


Fencer in my mind i a great combo with swordman , but then so is tkm which i used to be as well






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