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Thread: Swordsman get no respect

GaladanAZ
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:33 pm
#1

Why is this game catering to BH's, When are there gonna be things geared for swordsman and other professions.

It is just outrages the loot that is now available only to BH's, while the rest of the professions are stuck with the same old stuff.

BH's are making millions on Attachments and other loot that is only available to them.

When was the last update that helped us out.

SWG need to create things for Swordsman to do and be rewarded for.

If there are things for swordsman to do that is geared for swordsman then would someone please let me know.





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quitch
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:24 pm
#2

you need ta calm down. BH's can do two things, hunt jedi and hunt npcs. they fixed hunting jedis because that has had SO MANY BUGS forever. the devs looked at the npc system, thought it was lame and realized noone hunted npcs, so they revamped aka made better their content. if you would follow up you would know that they are dropping a lot less quailty items now. quit whining



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quitch
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:25 pm
#3

the reason why there are so many fixes for BH and updates is because BH has always been more borked than swordsman and still is. they need to fix problems that many people deal with. there is not much wrong with swords.



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imperialdremaer
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:28 pm
#4

alright im not even gonna read the actual arguement because the title says it all. Swordsman command one fo the most respect. we are like rifleman for ranged. we get our respect just the fact that melee is more ignored now then ranged. and who cares about "Respect" in a game with nur proff. u should be more worried if ur proff gets nerfed because u got too much "respect"




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quitch
Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:31 pm
#5






imperialdremaer wrote:
alright im not even gonna read the actual arguement because the title says it all. Swordsman command one fo the most respect. we are like rifleman for ranged. we get our respect just the fact that melee is more ignored now then ranged. and who cares about "Respect" in a game with nur proff. u should be more worried if ur proff gets nerfed because u got too much "respect"





that wasnt his point but most people see swordsman as the hardest melee to defeat



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J-R
Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:21 pm
#6

I have to agree in pvp swordsman actually get a lot of respect imo. I have felt that as a swordsman in pvp i get a lot more respect then most of the other classes due to the damage that we can dish out in comparison to the other classes.
GaladanAZ
Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:08 am
#7


you need ta calm down. BH's can do two things, hunt jedi and hunt npcs. they fixed hunting jedis because that has had SO MANY BUGS forever. the devs looked at the npc system, thought it was lame and realized noone hunted npcs, so they revamped aka made better their content. if you would follow up you would know that they are dropping a lot less quailty items now. quit whining






Spoken Like a true BH.


Look I am not trying to nerf anyone, but if you are gonna give one profession more variety, then you need to give everyone else the same choices. Not only can BH do any of the quest that swords or melee in general, can do, but also they have this whole other line of choices, which they can get some of the best loot. Everyone talks about how jedi are so numerous, but I see 10 time as many BH's and now with the uber loot for BH's there is gonna be even more. SWG need to make the game balanced so that people want to be more then just a BH or a jedi.





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GaladanAZ
Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:19 am
#8

And I wasn'talking about respect with the swordsman itself I was talking about SWG's failure to recognize melee when thinking up new ideas for the game. Swordsman is a great profession, and we deal good dmg, but most ranged deal the same amount of dmg if not higher then us, Only with armor break can we deal more dmg. but even then melee is being forgotten about, How many Swordsman can take on a Ancient Krayt solo. None that I know of, but I see ranged guys do it all the time. And No I am not asking for nerfs so be it if we can't solo a ancient krayt. I just think SWG need to plan something for melee guys as well.


But it doesn't matter if everyone is happy with BH's making millions off of exclusive loot, then I guess SWG did well in there configuation of the game.




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Noxik
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:21 am
#9


quitch, do you even play the game? you need to get your head out of your a$$ and pay attention


ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT VARIETY. THIS IS IMPROVING THEIR CONTENT. IT IS LIKE IMPROVING THE DWB AND GEO CAVES, BUT WAIT, YOUVE PROBABLY NEVER BEEN THERE SINCE YOU ARE TOO NOOBISH TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,


obviously youve never been there since the only thing that drops in the DWB are mando drops which take countless hours or days of farming, and the only thing worth a damn droping from teh geo cave is red cubes and sol agents which can be used for one thing, which also takes lots of time invested into farming.


you want the best loot, hunt NS, go to vette, go to kash, theres plently of places. heck even geo caves. there is a slight problem, with too much high end loot. however, much less high end loot has been dropping, so no worries


youve obviously never steped foot on dath the vette or kash, you can farm countless nightsisters and get nothing but leather and pikes and the ocasional slicing component or crystal, and for the vette the hardly ever drop of an attachment and what av-21 powerplants? hardly high end loot, and for kashyyyk the only things that drop there would be necrosis and the avatar which guess what, BH's can do those too... aswell as the rewards, so compaired to the BH to other player loot.. you kno BH > other hunting, and atleast when you hunt marks you usally get atleast 1 decent items, the only other leading attachment drop is aakuans which can also take hours of farming to get 1 attachment...


you honestly dont think that do you?


apprantly you dont either


none, but how many jedi can?


several on my server, just kno how to play


THEY ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE SOLOED GET OVER IT. ONE OF THE POINTS OF THE CU WAS TO REDUCE THE INDIVIDUALS STRENGTH, BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO STRONG PRE-CU


you say this well knowing that most ranged professions can solo most mobs if they have the right space to kite and the right weapons etc...


you really dont know what you are talking abuot. if you can find something that they did for rifles, carbs, and pistols that they didnt do for melee, then tell me


lack of melee-weapon comonents...


you MUST be a post-cu noob, cause if you were here pre-cu, you would know swordsman were the best people who could solo ancient krayts, better than rifleman.


you MUST be one, if you remeber if you were even here, or didnt have your head in your a$$ again, acient krayts = 90% but LS to all ar3, ph = ar2, t21 = ar3, do the math (obviously different people had different weapons so its not always the case..), besides jedi mainly farmed ancients, granted swordsman were the best tanks, but not the best at dealing dmg to a ancient krayt or a djm/djk...


HAT WASNT THE POINT, THE POINT OF THE LOOT WAS TO IMPROVE HALF OF THE BH CONTENT. you really dont listen. and also, the leet loot is dropping a lot less now, and lots more useless loot or not worth a lot loot. the point of this was not to get BH rich, but to improve the NPC hunting. they either made a mistake and had too many drops the first days, or they are using a complex system, like this: leet loot will drop based on the % of NPC bosses killed per server. at the start, fewer BH did the missions, so the chance to get good loot was higher. now with more BH, the chance is less


granted the system improved BH npc hunting, and i have a MBH myself, the loot raito between BH missions compaired to other loots is well above standard, youve also gotta realize most marks are about 10k HP same level and take a few minutes to take out, the boss mobs leading from 20-35k HP, when you loot at all other NPC's like nightsisters or mobs in teh geo cave they are all 20-50k in HP, and usally have much higher combat level...


you are jealous you arent making as much money as them.


he may be jealous, but more so hes upset that another profession has a far greater advantage over him to do so...


so why dont you get off the fourms and acutally play the game before posting your garbage...




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GaladanAZ
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:24 am
#10

Well put Noxik:

And just for your infomation I have been playing before CU and have done the Geo caves, DWB, avatar platform and almost all the kash missions. As far as the aakuan caves, they are very low lvl and 10 people are camped there at all times, and the maruraders cave I have solo'd many times and the good loot drop if very, very low. I have done just about every fight that has a chance of droping good loot, and the loot rate is low an all of them.


But I think you are missing the point, I am not asking for BH to be changed or any profession to be changed, I am asking for the oppotunities to be giving to all professions, I just happen to be a Swordsman, so Hence the subject title.




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quitch
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:32 am
#11

what i am trying to point out myself is that this was basically a fix for BH. it is new content in a way, but they fixed it so some BH's might actually do it. at the start, high end drops were common, now they are less.


im not up on components and all and what they are, but arent geo cubes and stuff like that high end components.


galadanAZ, you just seem to think that they only care about BH and jedi, which they do not, they were only improving their content.

swordsman does not have profession specific content to improve upon from the start



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GaladanAZ
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:39 am
#12

So by your logic they can keep improving BH, because they had something like that before, and leave all the other professions with nothing.

Yes I see your point, my bad, I guess it's ok then.





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quitch
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:44 am
#13






Noxik wrote:


quitch, do you even play the game? you need to get your head out of your a$$ and pay attention


ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT VARIETY. THIS IS IMPROVING THEIR CONTENT. IT IS LIKE IMPROVING THE DWB AND GEO CAVES, BUT WAIT, YOUVE PROBABLY NEVER BEEN THERE SINCE YOU ARE TOO NOOBISH TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT,


obviously youve never been there since the only thing that drops in the DWB are mando drops which take countless hours or days of farming, and the only thing worth a damn droping from teh geo cave is red cubes and sol agents which can be used for one thing, which also takes lots of time invested into farming. true, the DWB doesnt drop anything, but it had good loot pre-cu. and also, if you dont ive been there, i have been 2 times in the past week. i was just taking a piece of content, like both the DWB and NPC BH hunting are content, and saying that he would not be this upset if the intention of making the DWB was more fun. it is just that he heard of BH's getting too much high end loot, and thinks that the devs only care about BH and jedi. that is not true at all.


you want the best loot, hunt NS, go to vette, go to kash, theres plently of places. heck even geo caves. there is a slight problem, with too much high end loot. however, much less high end loot has been dropping, so no worries


youve obviously never steped foot on dath the vette or kash ive done half the things on kash and been on the vette not a lot, but like 3 times, you can farm countless nightsisters and get nothing but leather and pikes and the ocasional slicing component or crystal banes crystal = 4 mil on my server from elders, which swords shouldnt have much prob with if they get her alone, and for the vette the hardly ever drop of an attachment and what av-21 powerplants? it is rare but if you get the powerplant and get an av-21, more moneyhardly high end loot, and for kashyyyk the only things that drop there would be necrosis and the avatar also lots of the rewards sell well, the urchois leecherseek (my best guess), the ny' blade, oracle blade (only heard about this one)which guess what, BH's can do those too... ya but i said these as an example because to me it seems that the original poster thinks there arent any places to gethigh end lootsaswell as the rewards, so compaired to the BH to other player loot.. you kno BH > other hunting in variety, yes they are, and atleast when you hunt marks you usally get atleast 1 decent items they drop less often now however, the only other leading attachment drop is aakuans which can also take hours of farming to get 1 attachment...


you honestly dont think that do you?


apprantly you dont either


none, but how many jedi can?


several on my server, just kno how to play well i dunno how they would do it, but i did an ancient krayt with 1 mdef, me (mswords/doc4000/other), and 1 ranged, and i was healing the defender all the time, if i didnt he would have died.


THEY ARENT SUPPOSED TO BE SOLOED GET OVER IT. ONE OF THE POINTS OF THE CU WAS TO REDUCE THE INDIVIDUALS STRENGTH, BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO STRONG PRE-CU


you say this well knowing that most ranged professions can solo most mobs if they have the right space to kite and the right weapons etc... im pretty sure the only way to do this is by chain rooting. this is an exploit i am pretty sure, and if it get removed from the game they will have less of a chance, unless they fight someone who is high lvl melee only


you really dont know what you are talking abuot. if you can find something that they did for rifles, carbs, and pistols that they didnt do for melee, then tell me


lack of melee-weapon comonents...im not sure but arent like cubes components? acklay still works also


you MUST be a post-cu noob, cause if you were here pre-cu, you would know swordsman were the best people who could solo ancient krayts, better than rifleman.


you MUST be one nope, started march 04, if you remeber if you were even here, or didnt have your head in your a$$ again, acient krayts = 90% but LS to all ar3, ph = ar2, t21 = ar3, do the math (obviously different people had different weapons so its not always the case..), besides jedi mainly farmed ancients, granted swordsman were the best tanks, but not the best at dealing dmg to a ancient krayt or a djm/djk...


excluding jedi in this, swordsman were the best soloers. besides the DWB, SBD's, and DJM, they could solo anything with the right armor and weapon.


HAT WASNT THE POINT, THE POINT OF THE LOOT WAS TO IMPROVE HALF OF THE BH CONTENT. you really dont listen. and also, the leet loot is dropping a lot less now, and lots more useless loot or not worth a lot loot. the point of this was not to get BH rich, but to improve the NPC hunting. they either made a mistake and had too many drops the first days, or they are using a complex system, like this: leet loot will drop based on the % of NPC bosses killed per server. at the start, fewer BH did the missions, so the chance to get good loot was higher. now with more BH, the chance is less


granted the system improved BH npc hunting, and i have a MBH myself, the loot raito between BH missions compaired to other loots is well above standard, youve also gotta realize most marks are about 10k HP same level and take a few minutes to take out, the boss mobs leading from 20-35k HP, when you loot at all other NPC's like nightsisters or mobs in teh geo cave they are all 20-50k in HP, and usally have much higher combat level...


you are jealous you arent making as much money as them.


he may be jealous, but more so hes upset that another profession has a far greater advantage over him to do so... BH does have an advantage, but im guessing the drops will get lowered


so why dont you get off the fourms and acutally play the game before posting your garbage... ooo im mad now, and i was just in the DWB for like 3 or so hours, yes i do play the game






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