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Thread: Master Swordsman/Master CH or Master Swordsman/Master Rifle? pros and cons

Henzo-Kauri
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:38 am
#1

What combo you guys think is better? I've been stuck on this decision for days. I just dont want to waste my time getting xp in a skill i'm gonna switch or delete later
IagIag
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:55 am
#2

I'm doing quite well with CH. The taming isn't that dangerous since I sarted CH much later than 2H and can fight my way out of mostbad taming sessions.


As far as a tank partner this is really nice. Some of the pets I own (although this may change after the patch to CH) have ranged attack and for very high level mobs my pet can start before me and drop some dots - soften the target to 3/4 and then I can jump in and we can tag team it.


I solo much of the time and it's like having a teamate.. but one that doesn't whine (except, "hungry, play") and it doesn't stealmy exp or reward.


I've never fired a firearm so I can't speak for Master Rifle but since taming my first Dwarf Nuna, CH has opened my eyes to a whole new gaming experience. I've end up mostnightsin the farthest reaches of the most dangerousworlds seeing and experiencing things I wouldn't have without the sense of adventure CH adds.


MrTokai
Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:48 am
#3

i have both... err had


(swordsman need 2 box on finesse to reach master, sniper2/rifle special attack 3, Taming4/management3)


so.. here's the breakdown..


Swordsman = best way to get tons of xp from big monster.. crazy DPS with berserk (not anymore)...


Rifle = great for mindshot2/mindshot1 stack.. soften the enemy up a bit. usually i only go for either sword or rifle xp.. not both.. cause i have:


Pet = my tanks, my friends, my babies... with the right pets, there is nothing in the galaxy you should fear... unless there are tons of em... during the early baznitch days, i got tons of xp just with my tanking gurreck + berserk swordie.. no more of that for u guys =)


advantage of sword: u get cool title... high dps... u could one shot ppl (not anymore)


disadvantage of sword: crappy defense compared to TKA, high action cost. no useful move


advantage of rifle: fantastic for PvP... 80% of my kills... if not more.. crazy bleed to annoy people..


disadvantage of rifle: crap in PvE due to low dps... with the new 25% damage system, it'll be crap in PvP too.. luckily we have sword backup =).


advantage of pet: u can basically solo anything u want... if they're alone.. darkjedi/nightsister/whatever. great for medic xp as well... send em in, watch em die, fix em up.. maxed my medic in a night using that... (i untrained the pets last night for medic... no not because of the patch...mainly cause i'm almost maxed out and bored)


disadvantage of pet: its cheap, u'll feel dirty for using them, and you should =) otherwise u're in denial. lol well maybe not after this patch.. who knows...

DuelsenD
Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:57 am
#4

I'm working on all 3 atm, Rifle/Heavy Sword/Creature
Pecos
Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:03 am
#5

I'm rifleman/swordsman.


Pro: Rifles are good in PvP.
Con: You obviously can't use your rifle and sword at the same time so the benefits don't "stack".


I would imagine for CH/swordsman it would be something like:


Pro: You have a pet that's better at tanking than you are.
Con: Sometimes having to back out of melee range because your pet isn't holding agro.


I think the best combo in the game right now is CH/Pistoleer:


Pro: You have a supertank pet and the best damage-per-second of any class in the game.
Con: ...?




MrTokai
Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:52 am
#6

once u learn the range with pet, ur pet will hold agro nicely


just do an L shape.....


X ------ pet


|


|


|


you


distance from enemy to pet: 3m, distance from you to pet: 5m or 4m... never go 3


this is harder to do if the enemy is really big (faamba) or ur pets are really big (rancor)... another bad things about having a huge idiot around. =) keep with gurreck as pet and biznatch as enemy and u'll do fine..


as for why the L shape and not front/back formation.. its because often the enemy will push ur pet back or ur pet>enemy.. if u do back and forth with pet, u're risking yourself agro (if the enemy pushes ur pet back or if u're chasing it too far ahead).. and with lag, u don't wanna risk it =)

Tsion
Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:59 am
#7






MrTokai wrote:

keep with gurreck as pet and biznatch as enemy and u'll do fine..





You'll do fine? Are you sure? I thought you just got done saying you were maxxed out and bored. I'm thinking if you had hunted without a pet and not exploited the biznatches you wouldn't be bored yet.


Anyway, I split my time between rifle and swordsman and I think it's a good combo. Pull with a bleed and melee the dying mob as it comes in.




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