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Thread: Unbuffed..i kill myself in seconds fighting Gorgs

DarthVapour
Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:48 pm
#1

A utter newbie to the high end of combat proffessions. I'm 1/4/4/3 heavyswords,Medic 3/3/4/3 .

I finally splashed out on a new set of 80% kinetic compo,migrated my stats to a utter shadow of their former selves in order to wear it,and went hunting.


Buffed..things are very rosey.No problems at all.


Unbuffed......Things just seem to get worse and worse the higher i get.

Spamming headhit3 will just kill me in seconds.

My HAM is 640/640/640 ish. My hammer is a standard bazzar one and my scythe seems pretty ordinary.


Is this a problem all heavyswords have or have i migrated my stats wrong?

I have to hit heal evry 3 seconds to keep my head above water.


Thanks for your advice.



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KraytDragonMan
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:13 pm
#2

Umm who uses specials unbuffed?
DarthVapour
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:31 pm
#3

Oh.

Me! Wasn't i supposed to? Ive always done it,its only now that im in full compo with tiny HAM stats and firing off spin2 and Head3 that its a problem.


So i guess the answer is stay permenantly buffed?



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AelricMistrider
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:33 pm
#4

If you are killing gorgs..why are you wearing composite armor? Seems a bit excessive, and the HAM encumbrance isn't helping the regen rates.




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KraytDragonMan
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:44 pm
#5

Well I wear comp armor when im killing stuff around towns, it saves having to heal every once and a while. Once and a while I will use some specials, like if im using Fencer and I start getting hit alot I just turn on CoB which takes my HAM bars down like half way but then I dont get hit at all.
jedi464
Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:50 pm
#6

Just lay off the specials and you Should be 10x better



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SinjenRandall
Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:14 pm
#7




KraytDragonMan wrote:

Umm who uses specials unbuffed?






I do.


But I have defenses from TKA to keep me alive along with Master Medic, I have BE clothing, I am eating and drinking powerful and varied concoctions, and I am not wearing high-encumberance armor. It also helps if you are a Wookiee in this one case.






DarthVapour wrote:


A utter newbie to the high end of combat proffessions. I'm 1/4/4/3 heavyswords,Medic 3/3/4/3 .


I finally splashed out on a new set of 80% kinetic compo,migrated my stats to a utter shadow of their former selves in order to wear it,and went hunting.


Buffed..things are very rosey.No problems at all.


Unbuffed......Things just seem to get worse and worse the higher i get.

Spamming headhit3 will just kill me in seconds.

My HAM is 640/640/640 ish. My hammer is a standard bazzar one and my scythe seems pretty ordinary.


Is this a problem all heavyswords have or have i migrated my stats wrong?

I have to hit heal evry 3 seconds to keep my head above water.


Thanks for your advice.



Unlike when you are buffed, you have to pay close attention to how much HAM it costs to use a special. Remember that the second stat on each color determines how much HAM cost a special will use. If your armor encumberance is putting your strength down to 50, for example, it is going to cost significantly more to use a special than if your strength is at 600. You don't spam specials unbuffed, you coordinate them.


Don't be afraid to look for or special order a Power Hammerthat sacrifices a bit of damage forvery low range modifiers. I just bought some with -6 -8 -8, instead of the pretty standard -31 -31 -31. And it is only about 8 points difference in damage, so when I get them sliced the only difference I will note is how much more often I land a blow.Accuracy and rangeis important, because since you can't just spam specials, every single blow counts. Accuracy and speed becomemore important than 10 or 15 points of damage on the max damage range. And I think the Scythe is right out when you are unbuffed. You will kill yourself with it. Oh, and examine the creatures you are fighting. Fight creatures with low blast damage resistance. Get a low HAM curved sword just in case Kinetic is better, but be ready to flee.


If you are using a Power Hammer, Won Won is your friend. Synthsteak is awesome. In some cases, it is like a very powerful armor because as long as it is in your system, it always works against any kind of damage or armor piercing. Vasarian Brandy is also good because you can keep your mind healthy for healing yourself. Have plenty of stimpacks ready. You will have more downtime unbuffed than buffed. Your stomach is going to be a factor here, so get the food that lasts a long time, so while it is in use your food bars are regenerating.


Intimidate, intimidate, intimidate. Get items of clothing that provide indimidation / warcry bonuses, as well as ones that provide melee defense bonuses. These are Bio-Engineered, so they should be easy enough to find, unlike SEA's.


To killunbuffed, you have to ride a very fine line, and itmight take you a while to find a good combination of the right armor, the right stat migration, and the right combination of food. It takes preparation and discipline. But sometimes it is a heck of a lot more thrilling.





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DarthVapour
Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:29 pm
#8

Sinjen. thanks so much for that. Thats been very helpful.

I was sitting in a squill lair spamming spinattack with a scythe!





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DraGoN-Foxx
Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:08 pm
#9

wow HAM is pretty low, what species are u, im human and a goodstandard HAM is 800/800/800

and NEVER spam specials when ur unbuffed

and remember is ur fighting 1 vs. 1 check there mind, if its lower then the rest or equal then use mind hit, its more accurate and mind always goes out first, but if ur fighting multiple enemies u gotta use area attack....duh!


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SinjenRandall
Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:18 pm
#10







DarthVapour wrote:


Sinjen. thanks so much for that. Thats been very helpful.


I was sitting in a squill lair spamming spinattack with a scythe!






Ouch.


And I am not familiar with your human armor, but you might be better off with Ubese or Chitin. Something with low HAMbut decent kinetic resists. You will probably have to special order it, since armorsmiths invariably ignore HAM. I am willing to bet you are hurting yourself with specials more than you have to with that composite armor.





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Xika
Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:44 pm
#11

the new mandolorian wine can help you its plus 1021 to all the regen stats but 60 fill



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ViolentAngel
Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:54 pm
#12

Personally, I wouldn't try taking on a whole lair full of anything that is an even match if I was unbuffed. I mean even if there are only two of them, they're doing double damage until you kill one of them, and then you have to take out the second one. So really they do three times as much damage to you as they would if you fought them one on one. May as well just pull the mobs with your (uncertified) Launcher Pistol.


With my human character I have an extra 100 points in all of my secondaries (action bar isn't a problem, despite the bulk ofmy weapon'sHAM being aimed at it), and my HAM is 650,650,1100(for meditation), that ends up at 1200,1200,1750 when I meditate. That prbbly makes a big difference really...



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