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Thread: gorecki, could you please help us here

otodok-is-here
Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:59 pm
#1

hey gorecki- as you can see here


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=15075


there is a large arguement going on between those arguing for powerhammers and cleavers, could you give us the average DOT's for normal attacks and the average DOT's for the master swordsman's master attack???




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raider7734
Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:17 am
#2






there is a large arguement going on between those arguing for powerhammers and cleavers, could you give us the average DOT's for normal attacks and the average DOT's for the master swordsman's master attack???





What exactly is your question?DOT = damage over time, iebleeds (mind hit 1 and 2). What does that have to do with normal attacks or the attack granted atmaster, Hit 3?


If you're looking for infoon whatis the'best' weapon, that depends greatly on your skill level, the situation, and your fighting style.





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hall0559
Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:44 pm
#3

No he is not asking for DPS or what the bleeds do. DOT = Damage over time.


If we take each weapon and compare 30 seconds of regular attacks,


Figuring in accuracy and all that


what will equal the most DAMAGE OVER TIME.


hehe,


I hope that clears up a little confusion there.




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Sotaudi
Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:11 am
#4

I assume what was meant was DPS (Damage Per Second), not DOT (Damage Over Time).




Sotaudi Crestlighter
Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



Sotaudi
Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:06 am
#5




hall0559 said:


"No he is not asking for DPS or what the bleeds do. DOT = Damage over time"


and


"what will equal the most DAMAGE OVER TIME. "


and the original poster said:


"could you give us the average DOT's for normal attacks and the average DOT's for the master swordsman's master attack?"






Sorry, but last time I checked, seconds were a measure of time .


Statistically, your distinction is irrelevant. The average damage over 30 seconds is nothing more than the average damage over 1 second * 30. DPS is the more meaningful statistic because fights may last 1 second or they may last minutes. Heck, I have gone through two doses of muon gold to kill some targets. That is more than 20 minutes of fighting + downers. When measuring damage over time (as you are using the term), you generally find the lowest common denominator, which in this case is 1 second. That is more meaningful because to extrapolate damage over a larger interval, you simply multiply by the interval. Knowing average damage over 30 seconds only complicates things. For instance, if I want to figure out how much damage I am likely to get in a 12 second fight, it is far more useful to know I get 150 points of damage per second than to know I will get 4500 points of damage every 30 seconds. (I.e., 150 * 12is easier to figure out than (4500 / 30) * 12.)


So DPS is actually the important figure here.




Sotaudi Crestlighter
Master Rifleman / Master Combat Medic
"The Physician's Pain Reference"

Former Professions
Master Doctor | Master Swordsman | Master Brawler
Master Scout | Ranger



TrivanDK
Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:55 am
#6

I am a Master Swordsman - and I cant get the math to work out in favor of the Cleaver. (this is from another post)


The following are the weapons I am using - and I have calculated my dmg pr. sec. you might aguee that the 2-handed curvedsword will max out in speed - but for now I keep it in.



PH1 137-469, speed 3.7, range -31, average dmg / sec = 81,9 (31% speed slice)


PH2 179-614, speed 5.3, range -31, averagedmg / sec = 74,8 (30% dmg slice)


PH3 166-577, speed 5.7, range -9 , average dmg / sec = 65,2 (worn down, wish I could find a new one, got a 32% dmg slice)


2HCS 80-322, speed 2.5, range +8, average dmg / sec = 80,4 (30%+ dmg slice)


Cleaver 134-291, speed 3.3, range -8, average dmg / sec = 64,4 (30% dmg slice


All sliced, but no powerup



My cleaver might be a crappy version, but got a 30% dmg slice on it - but even then I cant get the math to work - only thing talking FOR the cleaver is the damage migration, well maybe also HAM cost, but ya normaly got nice buffs in PvP.


I like the PowerHammer best, been using it since Novice, and still using it 90% of the time, do switch to my 2-handed curved sword once in a while - but I think my speed sliced PowerHammer rocks in PvP.


I dono if they change something about the hit changes lately - because I have never missed so much since I became Master - still hopeing I can find a new PowerHammer with that low -9 range modifer - but looks like the original creater has retired.


BUT I think the real winner are..... the swordman..... our best weapon is switching weapons (took that from Sceren Dach'Nal of AIX on Radiant) - an ohh boy are ya right



Trivan


Master Heavy Swordsman

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