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Okay, so now I am hearing rumor that since the patch weapon smiths can create much better cleavers then before.. does anyone know if this is true? What are the stats? Dmg, spd, and HAM.....???

The cleaver is better than it was, but not significantly. It only gets the benefits of one of the two advanced sword cores.

Even though damage is getting close to the 2h curved sword, it's still far behind in terms of speed.

can you tell me min-max damage of cleaver? my curved sword's minimum(37-218) is pretty low so damage can get under the hundreds

I saw a post-patch cleaver with 44 DPS unmodified. My pre-patch sword is 42 DPS unmodified.

The speed on the cleaver was slower (3.5) but the minimum damage was significantly higher than the 2h curved, so that brought it up pretty well.

Real question is if post-patch curved swords are now worse.

Bah that's stupid. A gun with multiple couplers will take the effects of both. A sword with multiple swordcores will only take the effects of one? I mean, **edit**?

wow now I want a cleaver. attack speed is pretty good consideringboth min-max damage of it is better than my 2hCS

I'm making 62-247/2.6 curved swords with HAM of 33/66/39.

I just bought a new two-handed cleaver, here is the stat:

• Attack speed : 3.4


• Armor

I just bought a new two-handed cleaver, here is the stat:

• Attack speed : 3.4
  
• Armor Piercing : Medium


• Damage : Min 118 / Max 249


• Wound : 44%


• Cost : 55/54/36

I have compared it with 2h curved swords, cleaver should be better in lower cost and higher damage...

Two Handed Cleaver Build maxed on damage with Advanced sword core(stats 21 min, 21 max, speed -0.31, wound 6, attack mods 8/8/8, hams 4/4/4)
damage: 81-199
speed:3.7
wound:38.3
range mods:-9/-9/-9
H/A/M:47/44/27

Two Handed Curved with same builds
Damage:40-220
speed:2.9
wound:32.2
range mods:+6/+6/+6
H/A/M:28/61/33

These are post big patch numbers. Made with superior materials on the Curved and so so materials on the cleaver. Advanced sword core made with so so materials. Master Weaponsmith builds, unsliced. Hope this helps some.

A master weaponsmith-made advanced sword core with 21-21/-.36? You all must have some TERRIBLE dolovite iron.... mine are 46-46/-.602.

If you look at the ham numbers on the cores you will see that I tweeked the normal H/A/M penalties from 8/8/8 down to 4/4/4 with some cost to damage. Was just an experiment I was trying .

Correction, make that tweaked down down from 11/11/11 to 4/4/4 on ham costs. Here is the best core build maxed on damage with one exp point left over for efficiency for comparison using decent dolovite but certainly not super dolovite(Unit toughness of 781): Min/Max- 39/39, Speed -.054, Wounds 11, Range Mods 8/8/8, H/A/M 10/10/10. Good sword cores you got there my man, must have had a good dolovite pop for you.