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Thread: Need help with 0040 swords problem... counterattack... how does this work?
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vnicula
Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:55 am
#1
Counterattack works even if you have 0(zero) Counterattack, just take a new toon buffed and armored on TC and shot him with a broken weapon (damage 1).
After some time you'll see dodge, block or counterattack depending on which weapon is equipped. So you have a very small chance to counterattack with any 2h weapon equipped (or any Carbine or even unarmed).
While your Counterattack skill increases you'll see more often (againuse 2h/carbine/unarmed weapon) this message in combat log:
'xxxx swings/shot at you and hits for 230 points of damage but you shrug it off and counterattack'
That is the message for counterattack. You will notice also that counter-attacked hits don't take damage off your HAM (but allow stats to penetrate).
There is even an animation which WORKS showing the toon swinging to enemy (enemy doesn't take damage though).
The chance to counter attack a hit depends pretty much on your counter attack skill (increased by CoB) so at your level (+75) you should see at least 1 from 20 hits (not missed hits)counter-attacked when you fight low level mobs.
Don't expect too much counter attacked hits when you fight high end mobs.
The counter attack is not activated by mastering HS.
Hope this helps, its 2:54 AM here and I could write more but I'm too sleepy.
Peace.
Message Edited by vnicula on 12-15-2004 02:57 AM
Kilrtom-WookieCoat
Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:44 am
#2
Thank you for the info... I will continue more testing =) In PvP situation, I watched a Master Swordman "counter attack" over 75% of my hits... I kept seeing "counter attack" float over his head when I hit him. Now Master Swords gets a counter attack of base 100. I dont know if he was using any mods or not.
I would think that with my counter attack mod at 75, I would see myself "counter attack" a fair amount of the time vrs 1 target. Maybe my thinking is off, as I have never tried using this defense mod before.
Thanks again for your insight =)
Kilrtom-WookieCoat
Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:23 pm
#3
I am not fully sure how counter attack works... its my understanding its an innate ability when using a 2H melee weapon.
I just finished 0040 swords, and my current counter attack mod is +75 because of it. I am using a 2H curved sword and decided to attack a few low lvl mobs to test how often I am counter attacking... to my dismay, after 10 minutes of combat logs... I am not seeing any counter attacks at all 
Alright, so what gives here? I am not seeing "counter attack" float over my head nor in combat logs... yet I see other swordsman "counter attack" but they are Master Swords... I was told that these skill mods dont activate until you achieve 4th tier box as I have... so why wont it work? How often am I suppose to counter attack with +75 mod?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated =)
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