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Thread: How much can a Master Bleed for PVP or PVE

Legolas85
Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:52 am
#1

Master or others input welcome.....I'm a novice I'm justwaiting to master rifleman before I start leveling up in 2 hand.



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droid-on-roids
Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:07 am
#2

in pve i have stacked bleed to about 3k dam every 30 or so seconds


and in pvp i have stacked it to about 233 dam every 30-50 seconds


its hard to calculate as i just spam mind hit....and in pvp it gets a little bit intense with all the chasing we have to do




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Nepo_Bria
Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:23 am
#3

Well in PVE it's about 3.4k I've done at top (without powerup and with a mediocre (sp?)dmg sliced PH) and don't bleeds work the same as normal attacks? 25% of that damage is made in PvP. So basically you could bleed for about 850 if not more.



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Greeblesnort
Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:44 am
#4

I've gotten up to 6k (total) in PvE and about 5-600 in PvP (don't PvP much)

This is using my damage sliced max 602 hammer as master heavy sword.
Cidem_Relaeh
Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:13 am
#5

once I landed a 5500 single bleed (prone, no armor low resist mob, forget what it was though, had a high ham I think, mighta been a fambaa) but that was before I realized I could stack my mind bleeds haha. Biggest total since.. around 6k I think, average of 3-4k with a PH with max damage of close to 600. Depending on the mob I wait for myself or one of my carbineer friends to KD it before dropping the bleeds, for the extra damage.

PvP.. -75% or so I'd guess, don't pvp much yet.



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Neclonmite
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:06 am
#6

Of all the melee classes I think swordsman and fencer benefit the most from master brawler. With my speed sliced max dmg 469 PH i land 3300+ bleeds with mind hit 2 quit eoften. 1000-1500 with mind hit 1.


Just warcry2, lunge2, and while they're laying there on their back for 20 seconds pop on the bleeds and move to the next target.




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raider7734
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:27 am
#7

In pve if I want a good bleed going, I'll reapply them until I get about 3k on bleed 2, and 2k on bleed 1. I find this amount of bleeding isvery useful, and nothard toobtain. More can be had, but it gets time consuming to apply them over and over.





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Cakins7005
Thu Jan 15, 2004 11:30 am
#8

I use a damage sliced and damage powered up powerhammer to stack a 5,500 point bleed in PvE. In PvP I use panic shot then low blow and then twohand head 3 until they die.



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Harmonius
Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:50 pm
#9

I was dueling a jedi the other day (He's in my guild), and I got him with a bleed for 622 with my PH. I was amazed that I could do that. I'm 0/4/3/3 now, but I'm not sure quite how far along I was then...



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DarkBShadow
Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:29 pm
#10

well with my 726 damage ph the highest bleed i have gotton off with it in pve was ablut 6.3 the norm for it is like 3-4k of that one bleed mind hit 2 that is.


with mind hit 1 my norm damage is about 1-3k


in pvp with mind hit 2 vs an armored non melee range person i got a bleed of 1.2k i do not rember if he was prone or what but i know he was dead lol.




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Sotaudi
Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:37 pm
#11

Be careful about worrying too much about the size of the bleed. Let us say I swing the PH for Mindhit1 and get an 800 bleed. I may think to myself, "That is kind of low. I will reapply it. So I swing with MindHit1 again, and get a 1200 bleed. Satisfied with that, I move on to the remainder of my attacks (stack another bleed with Mindhit2, if I have it, and begin pounding away with Headhits).


Given that scenario and assuming the fight will atleastlast two minutes, Mindhit1 should have ticked off 6 bleeds. That would be a total damage from the bleedof 7200. Not bad, since had I left the bleed at 800, it would bea total bleed of 4800, a difference of 2400 damage. However, if instead of reapplyig the bleed, let us say I hit it with Headhit 2 for 3000 damage. The total bleed of 4800 plus the 3000 Headhit3 would total 7800 damage, 600 more than if I reapplied the bleed. And that is assuming the fight lasts for 2 minutes, and the bleed gets to run its full course. The shorter the fight, the less important the size of the bleed.


So you can see, that it may not be profitable to try to reapply the bleed in every circumstance. It may be best to just take whatever bleed rolls you get and move on.




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otodok-is-here
Thu Jan 15, 2004 5:57 pm
#12

im a 0-2-1-1 and normally hit my mind hit 1 for 800-1250, but i have gotten as high as 2200 before




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Henzo-Kauri
Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:23 am
#13

With my PH 580 max dmg i can stack bleeds around 6k dmg. In pvp the highest bleed i have ever gotten is 800 against a ranged user with no melee mitigation.I usually dont stack in pvp just start with the heavy bleed and then mind hits.
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