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Thread: Is it just me or do our defenses suck ?

Kreetlejuice
Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:31 pm
#1

I'll be the first to say that counterattack is nice. But Man, I get knocked down like it's cool. I'm usually down for 15 to 25 seconds if KD/Dizzied. Not very fun. Is there any plan for our defenses vs posture change, dizzy etc to be bumped up ? Is this even an issue to everyone else ?

angristVong
Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:23 am
#2

it's not just you - they suck.


riflemen have better melee defense than us

droid-on-roids
Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:29 am
#3

lol i get hit once with kd by a tkm and im out for good...there is no recovery from that!





Sindarian
angristVong
Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:51 am
#4

well basically if you want to be a swordsman and PVP you have one choice.



drop all other skills and become pure combat.


get all the best defense from fencer and tk and make it so they can't knock you down.


you'll proably have to axe scout too.


sad but true

Nepo_Bria
Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:54 am
#5

Well the bad part isn't that swordsman have barely no kd resist, it's that KD/Dizzy combo is insanely overpowered. Been a TKM for about a month and PVPedaLOT (atleast 400 player kills) and the only reason you win so easily is because you hit your enemy once, whoops, down for over a minute most of the time. And I fought a meleer with 89 kd resist and for some reason my kd burst through his defenses all 3 times in the 3 duels we had. First try every time and down he went. Sony, seriously, remove dizzy or make it last 10sec TOPS!



Mojo Rein ~ T3h Godmonkeh.


Sundracon
Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:19 am
#6

of all the melee classes swordsman get the worst defense. also we get the lowest accuracy of the melee classes, this is also why we miss so often even when using a 2 hand curved sword in PvP.


the TKA's KD2 hits so often because they have insanly highaccuracy.


in PvP what you have to watch out for are the fencer/pistolers, they can have 185 dodge and a ton of defense vs KD. and they get a weapon with stun damage

Ximma
Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:39 am
#7

I know our accuracy is bad, but Pikemen have worse.



"So I swoop upon the foe, and I will slay,
I will hew them into pieces, I will dash them into dust;
Like Baal in his strength, on their rearward, lo! I fell,
And I killed them, none escaped me, and I slew, and slew, and slew."


droid-on-roids
Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:49 am
#8

even though we may have bad defenses.....this is the only proffesions i will never drop


i luv it and am proud to say


SWORDSMAN FOR LIFE


/salute




Sindarian
Sundracon
Fri Jan 16, 2004 8:54 am
#9

agreed, swordsman rules hardcore! i'm dropping master doc before i ever drop swordsman
antares_Kauri
Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:54 pm
#10

Swordsman defenses are quite low. Before the November publish, Pikeman had the same melee/ranged defenses, and less toughness on top of that. Now, Pikeman has 10 more melee/ranged defenses and 17 less toughness. I think the devs are making the supposed tradeoffs clear, you trade damage for defense. Swordsman currently has a far superior weapon, the power hammer (more damage, better accuracy, blast damage, can be just as fast) tothe pikeman's LVA, and the 2hh3 has a 4.0x multiplier, vs. pikeman's 3.0x multiplier for ph3.


In the Nov publish, swordsman got a toughness boost, which I'm sure helps a lot, but the melee/ranged defenses and state defenses remain low. It's a shame that TKA and fencer can approach the damage output of both swordsman and pikeman, and yet retain the best and 2nd best defenses in the entire game.



antares
master pikeman




|Pikeman non-stop since July, 2003|
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SOE Producer Dallas Dickinson says:
"I mean, what is a pikeman and why is it something in the game?"
angristVong
Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:37 pm
#11

if that is the case - DAMAGE OVER DEFENSE then the devs should fix our accuracy so we can actually hit with the powerhammer.
angristVong
Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:39 pm
#12

also - riflemen have awsome DAMAGE they can kill you in one shot - yet they have dodges, 40 melee defense, huge ranged defense.



i dont think its game mechanics i think it's us getting the business end of the powerhammer from the devs

piezo
Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:50 pm
#13

Riflemen have dodges? Are we playing the same game?


Riflemen get block....which is the gimpy stepbrother of counterattack.



Piezoh
DrPiezo



I SAID WE'LL CUT OFF YOUR CHONSON!
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