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Thread: Sweep, Lunge, Area Attack ??

Lariano
Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:32 am
#1


Hi all, just started the 2h Profession yesterday and there are some things i wonder about. The short description of the 2h Sweep1 and the 2h Lunge1 seem to be the same....as well as the 2h sweep2 and the 2h Area Attack2 ?? can anyone tell me what the difference is? do we have a KD with one of our moves?


Thank you.
Dredly
Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:38 am
#2

basically the #2 verison is an upgraded, more damage, more chance of success, more powerful verison.


As for the attacks I really never use area attack, I perfer the spin attack, area attack takes to long to recover from and will greatly dealy a heal if its needed.


Lunge I *believe* allows you to hit from a little further away and can posture down


Sweep is supposed to be a posture change attack. I believe it is not designed to do damage but its very possible I'm wrong.


The real winners are the Head hit and bleed. get those as quick as possible as a 2000+ damage mind bleed followed up by massive blows to the head will drop anything pretty darn quick
Wokka
Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:50 am
#3


The spin attack is nice and will attempt to hit all enemies in your radius (including the lair if you're close). The 2 version of it just does higher damage to each thing hit. Extremely nice if you're surrounded by many mobs at once. Useless if you are fighting one. Unless of course you just like to see the cool motion.


Sweep is a joke SOE played on us, I'm sure. I had it take someone to their knees once and on their back once and I've used it a couple hundred times. It does do average damage though so its not a complete waste of a special.


Wokka-wokka


Greeblesnort
Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:28 am
#4

As a master, area3 is an excellent shot as well. High damage(1.5k-3.5k random HAM using 600+ hammer) with chance to posture down. Not all that helpful when you're leveling, but I went months without knowing the power of /warningshot too =)
darthfodder
Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:36 am
#5

I use the 2h spin all the time its great for those 8 tuskens surrounding you trust me. I just got sweep 2 and it would be great if there was a better chance it worked, I had 4 nightsisters on me and used it and it connected to save my life not so lucky on the next batch though.


Mind bleed and head hit are great if your going up against a single mob.


As for the area attacks in the first column of Swordsman I have not gotten any of those yet and was wondering if they were worth anything with there posture change and side effects.


raider7734
Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:22 am
#6








Lariano wrote:


Hi all, just started the 2h Profession yesterday and there are some things i wonder about. The short description of the 2h Sweep1 and the 2h Lunge1 seem to be the same....as well as the 2h sweep2 and the 2h Area Attack2 ?? can anyone tell me what the difference is? do we have a KD with one of our moves?


Thank you.






Sweep 1 and Lunge 1 are both single target posture down moves, but Lunge 1 has extra long range.


Sweep 2 and Area 2 are both area damage + posture down. I have never liked Sweep 2, its animation is lame, it doesn't do very good damage compared to its delay, and what good is an area posture down anyway?


Spin attack 2 I had hotkeyed for a while, but took it off. Area 3 seems to do betterarea damage and quicker, too (makes sense, it's a 4th tier skill and Spin 2 is 1st tier).




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Sambuka
Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:35 pm
#7

Lariano, do yerself a huge favor and master brawler. It gives you warcry2 and Intimidation2 , and 2handedlunge2 (knockdown) and makes getting through Swordsman that much more fun.



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Sotaudi
Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:07 pm
#8

AreaAttack3 and Hit3 both have a chance for Dizzy. However, like all specials, they are only a chanceto cause Dizzy.


Dizzy has a chance of causing a knockdown if they voluntarily change posture. Thus, if you can get a Dizzy, force a posture change down, when they try to stand back up, it may knock them down. But do not count on this. It has a low success rate.


However, if you can get them dizzy with AreaAttack3 or Hit3, and you have Lunge2 from Master Brawler, you can combine these (makes sure they are dizzy first) and obtain a KD which may keep them down because they are dizzy. Add Warcry2, and they get delayed 20 seconds as well.






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Lariano
Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:22 am
#9

Thanks to everyone for your comments......so i figured out that there is no difference between sweep2 and area2 but there is still one question left do we have a KD or dizzy attack??

By the way..i´m master doc and master fencer now switching to swordsman, so unfortunately no points left for master brawaler
GTOfire
Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:31 am
#10

area attack 3 has a chance to dizzy, but I hear it's not very potent.

The only actual knockdown we get is at Master Brawler I'm afraid. 6 posture down attacks, 4 of those area attacks, but no knockdown



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