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Thread: I'm assuming that Master Brawler is required for pvp?
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Hipnautik
Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:57 am
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From being a swordsman now for awhile, and getting into some action lately with this new character.
(was a wookiee pistoleer before)
I'm assuming master brawler is required to be effective? Let's be honest, warcry1 and lunge1 have not worked once for me in a fight, not once..... If I can't pause them or knock them down, I can't get a swing at them.
From some experienced pvp swordsman, is this the deal?
Cidem_Relaeh
Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:59 am
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Hipnautik wrote:From being a swordsman now for awhile, and getting into some action lately with this new character.(was a wookiee pistoleer before)I'm assuming master brawler is required to be effective? Let's be honest, warcry1 and lunge1 have not worked once for me in a fight, not once..... If I can't pause them or knock them down, I can't get a swing at them.From some experienced pvp swordsman, is this the deal?
Definitely, not only for intimidation2, warcry2, lunge2 but also the def bonuses. If you still have problems KD'ing people, try the dirty fighting tree in smuggler.
TheWanderersg
Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:59 am
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guess what - a KD is not required to win a pvp match! 
Your lunge1 will nearly always hit them into a posture change long enough for you to hit a bleed on em. ill never be able to master brawler, and i can pvp pretty well, i dont go for the ultiamte best uber 1337 uer omg !!1!!1!! pvp template though
Cakins7005
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:02 am
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Swordsman is not a good PvP class....I have a Combat Medic alt who can kill 20 swordsmen from 72 m away withPOST nerf poisons. PvP is for TKM's, Riflemen, and Combat Medics only. Master Brawler warcry 2 gives you enough time to run away to call an AT-ST and order it to attack the l33t fighter trying to pwn you. Swordsman owns PvE though.
BitterPill
Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:33 pm
#5
What exactly about Swordsman makes it bad for PvP? Is it the lack of defenses? Lack of a knockdown? Poor accuracy on our best weapons? Seems to me that if you land a mind bleed the action is over especially if you can Warcry 2...
APEist_theReb
Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:54 pm
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Cakins7005 wrote:
Swordsman is not a good PvP class....I have a Combat Medic alt who can kill 20 swordsmen from 72 m away with POST nerf poisons. PvP is for TKM's, Riflemen, and Combat Medics only. Master Brawler warcry 2 gives you enough time to run away to call an AT-ST and order it to attack the l33t fighter trying to pwn you. Swordsman owns PvE though.
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what happened to you to say that kind of thing, got beaten a few too many times, didnt ya?
sorry u feel that way, but swordsman CAN be an effective pvp profession, if given the right support.
master brawler certainly makes life easier, but so does master doctor and smuggler dirty fighting and carbineer.
all of those are good picks if u wanna be an effective pvpr, but id say the best of all would be the dirty fighting line, some pistoleer accuracy, and the meditation line from teras kasi artist and maybe some of the precision striking line as well.
that very effective pvp template would look like this: pistoleer 0-4-0-0, smuggler 0-0-4-0, teras kasi artist 4-0-0-3, master swordsman, medic 4-0-4-0.
very very effective, charege with center on, kd them with with low blow, slap on the mind bleed, back off and panic shot em (10 second delay), chase em and try and ger another mid hit on em, when there mind goes to 1, do a lunge and there dead. also u have meditation so u can buff urself.
see i wanted to find a template which allowed me to be effective with my sword, and that template was great just for that.
but then i switched to master brawler cause i wanted to be more of a tank for my friends, and realized that it definately aint a slouch when it comes to pvp. not quite as good as the above template, but still very effective. makes u a better over-all swordsman with the extra moves and mods and defense.
btw, my template now with which im very happy with when it comes to pvp and pve is: master swordsman, master brawler, teras kasi 4-4-0-4, fencer 4-4-0-0, and medic 4-0-4-0.
scout and exploration used to be imperative, but no longer with vehicles and player cities and such, pvp happens 99% of the time in cities now, so it doesnt matter.
Cakins7005 wrote:
Swordsman is not a good PvP class....I have a Combat Medic alt who can kill 20 swordsmen from 72 m away with POST nerf poisons. PvP is for TKM's, Riflemen, and Combat Medics only. Master Brawler warcry 2 gives you enough time to run away to call an AT-ST and order it to attack the l33t fighter trying to pwn you. Swordsman owns PvE though.
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what happened to you to say that kind of thing, got beaten a few too many times, didnt ya?
sorry u feel that way, but swordsman CAN be an effective pvp profession, if given the right support.
master brawler certainly makes life easier, but so does master doctor and smuggler dirty fighting and carbineer.
all of those are good picks if u wanna be an effective pvpr, but id say the best of all would be the dirty fighting line, some pistoleer accuracy, and the meditation line from teras kasi artist and maybe some of the precision striking line as well.
that very effective pvp template would look like this: pistoleer 0-4-0-0, smuggler 0-0-4-0, teras kasi artist 4-0-0-3, master swordsman, medic 4-0-4-0.
very very effective, charege with center on, kd them with with low blow, slap on the mind bleed, back off and panic shot em (10 second delay), chase em and try and ger another mid hit on em, when there mind goes to 1, do a lunge and there dead. also u have meditation so u can buff urself.
see i wanted to find a template which allowed me to be effective with my sword, and that template was great just for that.
but then i switched to master brawler cause i wanted to be more of a tank for my friends, and realized that it definately aint a slouch when it comes to pvp. not quite as good as the above template, but still very effective. makes u a better over-all swordsman with the extra moves and mods and defense.
btw, my template now with which im very happy with when it comes to pvp and pve is: master swordsman, master brawler, teras kasi 4-4-0-4, fencer 4-4-0-0, and medic 4-0-4-0.
scout and exploration used to be imperative, but no longer with vehicles and player cities and such, pvp happens 99% of the time in cities now, so it doesnt matter.
Cakins7005
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:02 pm
#7
Flame goes right through counter attack.....Counter attack doesn't work at all if you are intimidated. It doesn't matter if you have 1,000 melee defense and 10,000 ranged defense. Poison with 123 potency will hit you everytime......from up to 98 meters away. Doctors have enough time to cure themselves and two other people before it ticks. The only players that have killed my Master Combat Medic/Master Doctor character are TKM's and Riflemen.
APEist_theReb
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:12 pm
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Solution: spam peace and meditate if u got it, itll be off and u free to fight before it ticks, but leaves u pretty vulnerable, run into a building or around a corner. (done this several times). or u could kill the combat medic then meditate, whatever u like.
if u dont have meditate u could just kill the combat medic before it ticks, which i have also done several times, and then stick ur head between ur legs and kiss ur as.s goodbye. (this is what i did until i got meditation 2 or 3, which was the one where i began healing the poison/disease/whatever he chucked at me before it could tick.
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Solution: spam peace and meditate if u got it, itll be off and u free to fight before it ticks, but leaves u pretty vulnerable, run into a building or around a corner. (done this several times). or u could kill the combat medic then meditate, whatever u like.
if u dont have meditate u could just kill the combat medic before it ticks, which i have also done several times, and then stick ur head between ur legs and kiss ur as.s goodbye. (this is what i did until i got meditation 2 or 3, which was the one where i began healing the poison/disease/whatever he chucked at me before it could tick.
Rocacca
Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:16 pm
#9
The only thing a swordsman can really do is avenge group tefs on rifleman and commandos with headhit3 and a nice power hammer. One hit incaps are sweet 
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