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Thread: How is Master Rifleman with Master Heavy Swordsman?

ItalianJediLord
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:10 pm
#1

I am still trying to decide what is a good PvP template, as well as a good PvE I guess. Just mastered Swordsman and it was great. Haven't tried it yet in PvP. Rifleman was nice to have since it was agood ranged profession. I was just wondering if Master Heavy Swordsman / Master Rifleman / TKA 4404 is a good template. Do mind bleeds still stack? Even from both professions? Because that would be nice to stack 2 mind bleeds from rifleman then when they get in melee range which to swordsman and stack another 2 bleeds to the mind.
Makh_Naritus
Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:51 pm
#2

From what I hear its a great combo. Hit things from afar with your rifle then smash them in the head up close with swordsman. You CAN stack bleeds as in ONE sword bleed, ONE rifle bleed. But NOT two bleeds per weapon.




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Ciirybeccaskyr
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:17 pm
#3

Its a great set up in that you are combining the strongest melee prof with the ranged prof that blows away the rest in almost every area (only lacking in Def vs XX)



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:19 pm
#4

I cant say for sure that bleads dont stack anymore but the devs did say we are limited to oneDOT on each pool of each type (ie fire,poison,disease,blead). So if we assume that they coded it corectly (a leap of faith) and told us what they really intended to do(another huge leap) then no the bleads donot stack.


Like i said i have never had both these profs on the same toon at the same time so i could be wrong i am just going off of what we where told would be in place after the blead nerf





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ItalianJediLord
Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:20 pm
#5

With this template I will have 122 melee and ranged defense. Does this help at all in PvP? I know it will in PvE, but will they help counter the lack of defenses against stun, blind, etc?
Cakins7005
Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:09 pm
#6

I would do either Master Swordsman/Brawler/Rifleman for intimidate, warcry and sword bonuses or Master Swordsman/Marksman/Rifleman to reach the speed cap on head shot 3. My template is very good in PvP.



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Ximma
Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:06 pm
#7






Ciirybeccaskyr wrote:

I cant say for sure that bleads dont stack anymore but the devs did say we are limited to oneDOT on each pool of each type (ie fire,poison,disease,blead). So if we assume that they coded it corectly (a leap of faith) and told us what they really intended to do(another huge leap) then no the bleads donot stack.









Correct. As I understand it, its one bleed per pool, per person. So as a rifleman swordsman, I can have a total of 1 mind bleed. But each additional swordsman/rifleman can stack a bleed on as well. So 100 swordsman would = 100 bleeds. *shudders at the thought*




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Ciirybeccaskyr
Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:01 pm
#8

I have fairly high defences on my alt atm with 100 melee defence atm and it does help alot in the low end pve where you dont realy need it anyhow but the high end stuff like krayts and nightsisters have insane accuracy and never seem to miss.


Before the defence nerf these supper high lvl stuff was the same way as i took a friend out there to see if with his 145ish melee defence at the time and high block as well if he could tank krayts but no luck caue they hit him most of the time anyhow.





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ItalianJediLord
Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:35 pm
#9

I'm not too worried about PvE. I just attacked an Enraged Bull Rancor Lair. I was holding my own against 20 of them for awhile. Its the PvP I'm worried about. I am currently buying armor and clothing attachments to help out Swordsman. I love being a master brawler, but is the +5 speed and accuracy worth that many skill points? Hopefully I'll have enough attachments to take care of that problem, for PvP purposes I need more defenses and I'm having a hard time finding attachments with defenses vs KD, blind, dizzy, etc.
RueKursk
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:28 pm
#10

I know the patch notes said one bleed per pool, but they didn't do a sufficent job coding that. It's one bleed per profession type, so a swordsman/rifleman can stack one bleed from each profession.


A buddy and I tested this against each other and in PvE about a week ago.



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Mafaza
Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:19 am
#11

Sweet. Too bad they all don't stack though. I was hoping to have 4 bleeds + disease going at once.





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Sotaudi
Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:29 pm
#12






Mafaza wrote:

Sweet. Too bad they all don't stack though. I was hoping to have 4 bleeds + disease going at once.






When I was leveling, having 4 bleeds was great. You could stack two bleeds with the rifle, move off to let the bleed single pull the critter (I was leveling with Pickets), and then when they got in melee range, stack two more bleeds with the Powerhammer then continue attacking with Headhits. You could easily average 4K in bleeds doing that, and I know I hit for at least 5600 in bleeds several times.



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