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Thread: Swordsman vs TKA in PvE
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FeartheLettuce
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:22 pm
#1
I have heard swordsman is better, but are they a lot better? I know they get blast damage, which would help me out a ton, right now Im limited to kinetic(and will likely still be after the RK is added due to the rarity of the required componet). TKAs get meditation tho, which helps me out a ton, but would the better damage be worth it? I couldnt have both, not enough skill points, so I am stuck between both professions.
Maximum_Overload
Sat Apr 17, 2004 8:43 pm
#2
I'm currently migrating to Swordsman. I have an extra scummy Power Hammer (4.1/466max), and a decent Curved Sword. I was able to buy Technique 3 with stashed combat xp. I then worked to Defense 1 for Spin Attack 2.
At this point, killing just one critter is slower than when I was TKM, but I walk up to a lair, target it, hit sword spin2. I kill the initial wave, and the first wave at the same time. I break out the curved sword to bleed the lair down, smoke the whole second wave at the same time. Move on.
With MHS, I look to be way better at creature killing.
At this point, killing just one critter is slower than when I was TKM, but I walk up to a lair, target it, hit sword spin2. I kill the initial wave, and the first wave at the same time. I break out the curved sword to bleed the lair down, smoke the whole second wave at the same time. Move on.
With MHS, I look to be way better at creature killing.
ViceroyErin
Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:52 pm
#5
Meditation is extremely useful, and that's what most TKA's argue... but if you haven't felt the power of swordsman.. you're missing out.
ThorBattlehammer
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:13 pm
#6
why choose? Master TKA+ Master Swordsman + Master Brawler = MAD MAD OWNAGE in both PVE & PVP.
Ufgood-Zep
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:42 am
#7
I honestly just dont see the need skill point wise for master brawler and if your going master swordsman why get msater TKM? How many of you would honestly use half of your TKM skills when you have a nice scythe by your side that you can swing once a second or damn close to it?
If anything just grab meditation from TKA and possibly the combat xp line for defenses.
If anything just grab meditation from TKA and possibly the combat xp line for defenses.
Suva
Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:20 am
#8
why choose? Master TKA+ Master Swordsman + Master Brawler = MAD MAD OWNAGE in both PVE & PVP.
No it doesn't. You can't heal yourself, your defenses will be a lot worse then a pure PvP template and you are completely limited in what you can do. Thats a terrible template to be honest. You would be a lot better with 4004TKA/Master Fencer/Master Brawler/2040 Medic and you would still have 42 skill points to spare(for a PvP build)and a lot better with Master Swordsman/Master Doctor in PvE.
DannieQuee
Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:30 am
#9
you can heal yourself just fine being master tk, master swords and master bralwer
i'm master tk, master swords, master brawler, fencer 0400 and medic 1030. i have 650 heal value stims and a shirt that's +25 to injury/wound treatment. i heal myself anywhere from 500-1k damage with those stim c's.
i also have another character on another account on my server that's a master doc/master dancer, and a third char that's master ws/master musician. i own in pve, and do rather well in pvp now that i have lunge 2 and a gamorrean axe.
i have two scythes..one damage sliced to 400 dmg 2.5 speed, and another one speed sliced 2.0 321 dmg. i do about 500 dps vs. 80% composite to your mind pool, start off with gamorrean axe with mind hit 2 (bleed, disease), use a grooved twohander to l and health bleed, then pound on you with heathit 3..this is after lunge2 and unarmed dizzy 1, followed by lunge 1 if you manage to stand up before dizzy is out.
i used to be master tk, master fencer. i never did this well in pvp or pve as fencer. honestly, only those fencers gifted with acklay batons do well in pvp.
Suva
Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:57 am
#10
you can heal yourself just fine being master tk, master swords and master bralwer
i'm master tk, master swords, master brawler, fencer 0400 and medic 1030. i have 650 heal value stims and a shirt that's +25 to injury/wound treatment. i heal myself anywhere from 500-1k damage with those stim c's.
i also have another character on another account on my server that's a master doc/master dancer, and a third char that's master ws/master musician. i own in pve, and do rather well in pvp now that i have lunge 2 and a gamorrean axe.
i have two scythes..one damage sliced to 400 dmg 2.5 speed, and another one speed sliced 2.0 321 dmg. i do about 500 dps vs. 80% composite to your mind pool, start off with gamorrean axe with mind hit 2 (bleed, disease), use a grooved twohander to l and health bleed, then pound on you with heathit 3..this is after lunge2 and unarmed dizzy 1, followed by lunge 1 if you manage to stand up before dizzy is out.
i used to be master tk, master fencer. i never did this well in pvp or pve as fencer. honestly, only those fencers gifted with acklay batons do well in pvp.
Sure you own in PvE...only you can't solo anything that bleeds your mind or poisons you. Yeah you own in PvP too, apart from when you go against Doctors with high Dizzy/KD/PD defense who just get back up and cure themselves. I suppose you also own combat medics who disease your mind and then kite till you die as well...
Suva
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:01 am
#11
O yeah, and having like 3 characters on 1 server so that you can "solo" things that you could truely solo if you had Master Swords/Master Doc or TKM/Master Doc is hardly "owning in PvE"
Ufgood-Zep
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:08 am
#12
"i have two scythes..one damage sliced to 400 dmg 2.5 speed, and another one speed sliced 2.0 321 dmg. i do about 500 dps vs. 80% composite to your mind pool, start off with gamorrean axe with mind hit 2 (bleed, disease), use a grooved twohander to l and health bleed, then pound on you with heathit 3..this is after lunge2 and unarmed dizzy 1, followed by lunge 1 if you manage to stand up before dizzy is out."
First off, I highly doubt your doing 500 dmg per hit in PvP, MAYBE against unarmored but NOT against 80% kinetic.
The gamorrean axe is useless in PvP, USELESS unless your going against the same person for a 10 minute period.
The axe's I believe either have a 40 point health disease or 40 point mind disease, a disease ticks ONCE every 20 seconds, tell me, how in the hell is that helping you in pvp? Your wasting your time by just clicking on it in your toolbar.
So you use a sword that does a health bleed but you only use an attack thats hitting the mind? I sense a pattern here, you like wasiting your time on pointless moves/weapons.
First off, I highly doubt your doing 500 dmg per hit in PvP, MAYBE against unarmored but NOT against 80% kinetic.
The gamorrean axe is useless in PvP, USELESS unless your going against the same person for a 10 minute period.
The axe's I believe either have a 40 point health disease or 40 point mind disease, a disease ticks ONCE every 20 seconds, tell me, how in the hell is that helping you in pvp? Your wasting your time by just clicking on it in your toolbar.
So you use a sword that does a health bleed but you only use an attack thats hitting the mind? I sense a pattern here, you like wasiting your time on pointless moves/weapons.
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