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Thread: Fellow master swordsman, I need your advice...
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Captmorgan72
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:40 pm
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What is the most effective way of defeating a master pikeman? Here is the situation, my bud is a master pikeman and insists that his profession is superior to mine. I cant really debate him because he defeats me in duels everytime. We are both Zabrak and are always buffed including with brandy. We both carry morun gold for that extra mind boost also. We both wear full comp armor with me wielding a scythe and him a vibro ax. The fights get close but he always wins. My strategy is to always use mind hit 3 with my reasoning being he is limited to healing his mind but has plenty of med stims to heal action and health. He also targets my mind. I occasionally use warcry/intimidate with little effect though. So any suggestions that I might try will be appreciated.
GarronDarkweaver
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:57 pm
#2
Get 4 0 3 0 doctor. It will be your best decision ever. Along with this get 4 4 0 0 fencer.
This gives you the ability to cure all of his dots, all of his states and the fencer gives you very very good accompanying defences, both in terms of ranged/melee defence and status defence.
The best bet is to also get some minimum damage +16% powerups for your scythe as this will help to bypass his melee mitigation 3 from pikeman.
Dont bother trying to kd/dizzy him as this wastes far far too much time in my opinion, just keep him intimidated, and warcry as necessary to heal etc and hit him in the head a lot.
I have never liked muon gold since the new foods came into circulation as the downer = death 90% of the time so dont use it unless you really realy have to and if its going to be a long duel dont use it untill as close to the end as possible so as not to encounter the downer while fighting.
Doctor poison and disease risistance buffs wouldnt go amiss as well if he does use a lot of dots as this will limit him to fires so you will spend less chance curing if you do take the template advice.
If you are speed capped, get your self a hi minimum damage powerhammer as once you are at cap these are far far more effective than scythes in pvp in my experience.
Fezzig
Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:57 pm
#3
I'd really have to know both your full templates to make an educated guess as to why he always spanks you. 
sofrash
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:24 pm
#4
Fezzig wrote:
I'd really have to know both your full templates to make an educated guess as to why he always spanks you.
BAD FETCH BAD!!!! you should beat him straight up if your both single mastered look
move dmg mod
area 3 3
hit 3 4
mind hit 2 2.5
head hit 3 3.5
actionhit2 3.0
polearm hit 3 2.5
leghit3 2.3
polearm is weak man just use /center he wont hit you lol
Message Edited by sofrash on 09-08-2004 05:27 PM
black666label
Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:53 pm
#5
Yeah use center of being...The CoB owns
Here's a good macro for it
/ui action clearCombatQueue; /pause 32; /ui action toolbarSlot##.
Just insert whatever number you want in there between the numbers 00 and 23 00 being F1 and 23 being shift+F12
Rebbin
Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:49 pm
#6
Try using AOE 3 for the dizzy and lunge. Unless you have Mbrawl then you can KD.
Okin_Sin
Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:29 am
#7
You said he also targets your mind, how does he do that? Are you speed capped? Is he using DOTs?
Ovakito
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:18 am
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yea, i don't lose to Pikeman unless they use DOT's but now that i am master Doc, thats not a problem. By the way, whats your template? Never underestimate the power of the hammer (no pun intended).
Message Edited by Ovakito on 09-10-2004 07:18 AM
Tathizar
Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:37 am
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pikeman is a weak profession sad to say.. all theyhave are dots. if he is using dots on you, get a janta knife and the gamorian battle axe do get a mind poison and mind disease on him, lol those are both easy to find. if no dots are involved there should be no match.. simple.
-always have him intimidated, helps more than ever (esp with intimidate2)
-warcry is worthless cept at teh beginning of the battle, the way it works is that it delays your target UNTIL you hit him, or the time runs out, all you can do while he is warcried is to try to get intimidate on him.
-even though it doesn't say... areahit3 has the chance to get dizzy, you can try that and then lunge do get a kd on him, if not just use CoB and headhit and you would win. Don't let the pikeman show you up! 
GarronDarkweaver
Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:17 am
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Yes they can, they can use hit3, hit2, hit1, any of the area attacks, standard no special attack and any of the state applying attacks. They have exactly 5 attacks that wont hit mind: Leg hit 1, leg hit 2, leg hit 3 and action hit 1 and action hit 2.
Pikeman certainly can attack mind 
capzyL
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:18 am
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kaz i think your wrong here, a pikeman will give every melee porfession hell, we have both been pikeys so we both know. However, a pikeman aplying poison ever 1 sec, for 5seks, changing to fire, and maybe one of those +500 tick pikes
add the pike dizzy/posture change down moves, intimidate and hell, the pikey might have cm 2.0.0.4 or so, and put you on focus desase mind poison (you tend to miss the focus desase since you often get the normal heal desase from pikeman)
and every swordsman, including the goodly ones will be in trubble.
have you tried it out dude?
MelikyeKobine
Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:27 am
#13
If he is using strong DOT's, the only way to beat him will be to get some doc so you can cure them. Other than that, use CoB so he doesnt hit you as often, intimidate so he does half as much damage, make him dizzy w/ area3 and kd him if possible. Otherwise those DOT's will eventually kick your butt.
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