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Thread: AP3 It's been said I'm saying it again

Meadran
Fri May 14, 2004 7:27 am
#1

I know that people have been posting this for awhile, but I had my first run of it last night. A witch in the hills had Heavy Armour, and I couldn't scratch it. But Mr. Rifleman comes along and kills it no problem. Why oh Why won't they give any of the melee professions an AP3?


It's a HUGE hammer it should bash through AP3


It's called the HACK it should be AP3


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Give us AP3...



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Isvurx
Fri May 14, 2004 7:45 am
#2

I totally agree that we should have an AP3 weapon, but man - are you saying you couldn't scratch an elder?
Numen
Fri May 14, 2004 8:06 am
#3

Should we get an AP3 weapon? IMO no. However, I don't believe rifleman in their current incarnation should have AP3 either. There should be mobs that people can't solo easily. AP3 in the hands of a PC gives people that option.


Commando should have the most AP3 weapons and they have zero useful ones for PvE. Or at least useful as the T-21 is now.


I'm not against balance. If the only combat change in the next 6 months was to be new weapons, I completely agree that MHS should get an AP3 weapon. However I also think there are other professions that should as well. AP3 is such a huge advantage over AP2 when fighting heavy armor mobs that it shouldn't be in the hands of just a few professions.



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Evark-Xitov
Fri May 14, 2004 1:31 pm
#4

ap2 vs ap3 = damage cut 1/2





melee with ap3 would be very overpowered



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TheDarkmoons
Fri May 14, 2004 1:34 pm
#5

Armor Piercing Three should go to Commandos Heavy Acid Rifle. It sprays corrosive acid -- Armors not going to be a use against that.




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Fri May 14, 2004 1:48 pm
#6

Honestly, the only weapon I think should be AP3 is a lightsaber. Drop the T21 back to AP2. But if the devs won't do that, then I certainly wouldn't refuse if they decided to give swordsmen an AP3 hack...



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Xendi
Fri May 14, 2004 5:55 pm
#7


In no way shape or form do we need AP3, we could solo DJM with AP3...As a MHS im am certainly against this.


We can already out damage every other melee class, and dont compare Riflemen with Heavy Sword, theres a Big Diff between steal & Muscle and a High Velocity energy round traveling at 5k ft per second...


If anyone should get AP3, give it to those poor saps over in the Pikemen forum.../ sheds small tear for all Pikemen..


What we need is status attacks that arent all the same, we are the fukking Samurai's of this game, give us something unique, but something that wont have every other melee proffesion screaming foul...


Just my dumb opinion, not like it matters................



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TheStarWarsKid
Fri May 14, 2004 9:31 pm
#8

This might be stupid, but I think the Lightsaber should be AP4. Think about it, in Episode 1 it melted through TWO steel doors like nothing.Don't you thinkitshouldbe AP4? I mean, if you get hit with a lightsaber, you'll be cut in half like a hot knife through butter. Just my silly opinion.....



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Gneedle
Fri May 14, 2004 11:26 pm
#9

Mmm there are mobs in this game that people can't solo? where are they I want my shot =)


Honestly though, ap3 wouldn't kill swordsman or make them overpowered at all. we get bs accurracy, bs speed, bs defenses. I can honestly say that I wouldn't mind doing an extra tick of damage to a nightsister elder or a krayt dragon. Best way to go about it would be a melee weapon powerup that gave +1ap to any melee weapon though, not strictly to swordsman, the only class that should really be forbidden from getting any descent ap is tka. Course, that's just my opinion, i could be terribly off, it's not unheard of.





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Meadran
Sat May 15, 2004 12:23 am
#10

All I am saying is



AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3


AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3


AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3


AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3 AP3


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Dzhokar
Sat May 15, 2004 1:14 am
#11

I think we should get ap3 for one simple reason.... kill stealers....



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Xeno-Ender
Sat May 15, 2004 1:17 am
#12

We don't need an AP3 weapon, we can already take out just about anything in game by ourselves if we are buffed fully...no one should be able to take on the biggest mobs in the game alone. I think drop everyone to a max of AP 2 except maybe a few commando weapons to go with their idea of the tank killer or what not and jedi since they are using a blade of pure energy...

If we did get an AP3 weapon the rest of the melee profs would be screaming nerf, just look around the these boards, its all, I solo'ed a krayt, or giant dune kimo, we can just about solo any high end mob in the game. we don't need anymore help
Ufgood-Zep
Sat May 15, 2004 11:13 am
#13



Xeno-Ender wrote:
We don't need an AP3 weapon, we can already take out just about anything in game by ourselves if we are buffed fully...no one should be able to take on the biggest mobs in the game alone. I think drop everyone to a max of AP 2 except maybe a few commando weapons to go with their idea of the tank killer or what not and jedi since they are using a blade of pure energy...

If we did get an AP3 weapon the rest of the melee profs would be screaming nerf, just look around the these boards, its all, I solo'ed a krayt, or giant dune kimo, we can just about solo any high end mob in the game. we don't need anymore help




The part I really hate hearing is that no one should be able to solo an elder or a krayt.... Um why in the hell not?

We dont always feel like grouping, so why is it at the times I dont feel like grouping I should be forced to take on huurtons or some **edit**?

The great thing in this game is if I want to go solo a krayt and waste a bunch of time for possibly getting nothing i can, I also run the risk of someone stealing my kill but oh well, thats part of soloing. Also if I feel like taking a group of 10 friends out to go hunt a krayt I can do that to and its still as much fun.



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