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Thread: Master Brawler with Master Sword- How necessary is it?
Excellent! Just what I wanted to hear actually. Having been throught the MSword/MBrawler then dropping MBrawler only to realize I REALLY missed the extra speed/intimidate2/lunge2, I don't want to go through that rigamarole again... back to a "damage dealing specialist" it is!
Na
Agree. Post-CU Master Brawler is not needed. I dropped it and got Doc 4-0-0-0 instead. It was good Pre-CU for all the lunges, intimidate 2, and Warcry 2, but all that stuff is gone.
Jeisyn wrote:
not at all necessary, imo.
you'd have more fun with specials from other melee trees (or rifle, in your case)than mastering brawler.
Melee Defense +10
General Melee Accuracy +25
General Melee Speed +15
Melee Defense +5
Ranged Defense +15
You don't miss all that?
The way people pay millions for skill tapes that are just +5 in these areas makes me think that getting this many all in one spot would be worth it. Anyway, just curious why all those skill mods don't seem worth Master Brawler when skill mod tapes are such prized posessions.
jabjowie wrote:
What about all the skill mods at Master Brawler?
Melee Defense +10
General Melee Accuracy +25
General Melee Speed +15
Melee Defense +5
Ranged Defense +15
You don't miss all that?
The way people pay millions for skill tapes that are just +5 in these areas makes me think that getting this many all in one spot would be worth it. Anyway, just curious why all those skill mods don't seem worth Master Brawler when skill mod tapes are such prized posessions.
Message Edited by TXwarrior on 05-26-2005 07:16 PM
TXwarrior wrote:
jabjowie wrote:
What about all the skill mods at Master Brawler?
Melee Defense +10
General Melee Accuracy +25
General Melee Speed +15
Melee Defense +5
Ranged Defense +15
You don't miss all that?
The way people pay millions for skill tapes that are just +5 in these areas makes me think that getting this many all in one spot would be worth it. Anyway, just curious why all those skill mods don't seem worth Master Brawler when skill mod tapes are such prized posessions.
You can get all those mods from clothes attachments without losing Skill Points. Also with my new templet Doctor gives you a lot more Defense + Infusion. I don't miss Master Brawler at all.
Most of All do what ever makes you happy.
Message Edited by TXwarrior on 05-26-2005 07:16 PM
Yea, but what is cheaper? I see no need in Medic 4000 excep mini buffs.
And what about +15 melee speed from MBrawler +25 melee speed in tapes?! 
NepokaT_Szolo wrote:
Yea, but what is cheaper? I see no need in Medic 4000 excep mini buffs.And what about +15 melee speed from MBrawler +25 melee speed in tapes?!
yeah, this is more what i was thinking. these skills are so desired as tapes, why not get these big bonuses and then be able to stack even more in tapes.
of course it is all in personal play style and what you want out of your character, but it seems like all those skill mods at master brawler are nice.
jabjowie wrote:
NepokaT_Szolo wrote:
Yea, but what is cheaper? I see no need in Medic 4000 excep mini buffs.
And what about +15 melee speed from MBrawler +25 melee speed in tapes?!
yeah, this is more what i was thinking. these skills are so desired as tapes, why not get these big bonuses and then be able to stack even more in tapes.
of course it is all in personal play style and what you want out of your character, but it seems like all those skill mods at master brawler are nice.
honestly, the speed + accuracy was nice - it will definitely raise your DPS (i noticed a 75 point raise in dps on my hammer with master brawler and max speed powerups)....
while nice, it uses up action that much faster! 
the defensive mods absolutely do not matter once you turn cob on. you can have +150 defense or +400 defense - once you hit cob, you're capped.
my old template was TKM/mSword/mBrawler/Pike x133ish - i found that respec'ing to TKM/mfencer/mSword gave me more useful specials for pvp (Cripple/blind/bind/advanced lunge are very nice for pvp!). warcry/intimidate/stun from pikemanare very useful as well (will cut down a bit of damage, even while cob'd).
so anyways, i having more USEFUL specials negates the loss of a bit of speed/accuracy, imo.
NepokaT_Szolo wrote:
TXwarrior wrote:
jabjowie wrote:
What about all the skill mods at Master Brawler?
Melee Defense +10
General Melee Accuracy +25
General Melee Speed +15
Melee Defense +5
Ranged Defense +15
You don't miss all that?
The way people pay millions for skill tapes that are just +5 in these areas makes me think that getting this many all in one spot would be worth it. Anyway, just curious why all those skill mods don't seem worth Master Brawler when skill mod tapes are such prized posessions.
You can get all those mods from clothes attachments without losing Skill Points. Also with my new templet Doctor gives you a lot more Defense + Infusion. I don't miss Master Brawler at all.
Most of All do what ever makes you happy.
Message Edited by TXwarrior on 05-26-2005 07:16 PM
Yea, but what is cheaper? I see no need in Medic 4000 excep mini buffs.
And what about +15 melee speed from MBrawler +25 melee speed in tapes?!
Read again please. 
It is Doctor 4-0-0-0, NOT Medic 4-0-0-0.
Doctor Infusion really helps. You are right that medic is not much, but move up to Doctor and infusion is very powerful. I am able to solo SOMEthings again.
SOME = NS Spell Weavers, NS Stalkers, NS Sentinels, and Juvi Krypts.
Message Edited by TXwarrior on 05-27-2005 02:05 PM
NepokaT_Szolo wrote:
Oh I see
But when youre doing PvP is that temp not soooo usefull
Hmmmmmmmmm. I have not tried it much in PvP, but in PvE Doctor Infusion rocks. I will have to try it in PvP and see how it goes. One thing I know for sure is the Jedi version of Infusion helps in PvP, because I see a lot of Bounty Hunters complaining about it. I think the Jedi version and the Doctor version are the same.
I will test PvP and let you know.