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Thread: A Quick Elder Question
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DaGame2584
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:58 am
#1
I have TKA Mastered, Swordsman Mastered, and have 3240 Medic. Can anyone give me some tips on how to take one down with these skills as they are now.
Thanks!
Message Edited by DaGame2584 on 01-13-2005 10:58 AM
JediMasterZero
Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:07 am
#2
have a lot of brandy on hand, along with a nice musician/dancer buff and you should be ok. synsteak can't hurt either.
StellarSwordsman
Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:28 am
#3
Get Mbrawler and a speed sliced hammer and u should be set. Also pick up some 85% + base armor.
DaGame2584
Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:50 am
#4
StellarSwordsman wrote:
Get Mbrawler and a speed sliced hammer and u should be set. Also pick up some 85% + base armor.
sorry for a stupid question but why master brawler?
Daunte89
Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:05 am
#6
Start off with intimidate until it sticks, then you can either do mind hit 1/2 and stack bleeds, or you can do headhit3. If she bleeds you, warcry, peace, and /firstaid. And if you're not speedcapped, be prepared to be there a long time, unless you have someone with you.
Now as to the foods to bring, get your normal doc/dancer buffs, and while waiting on those buffs eat a synth steak (so that way when you get to your target you should have no filling left from it), then travel to Dath and look around. Once you find it drink 1-2 brandies (depending on what buffs you have, and if your mind is high enough without them, you might want to save the last spot for a instant 400+ mind heal whilst drinking that second brandy), once your synth steak runs out eat the exo-protein wafers, they have only 5 fill and protect against 25% damage. You can also eat Thaktillo, depending on the defenses of your template. With Fencer x4xx(the Def Vs KD line) I didn't need thaktillo, but when dropping that line I noticed a huge difference, so thaktillo is optional.
Anything else I missed? Just post and I'll try to help you out with whatever else you might need.
Now as to the foods to bring, get your normal doc/dancer buffs, and while waiting on those buffs eat a synth steak (so that way when you get to your target you should have no filling left from it), then travel to Dath and look around. Once you find it drink 1-2 brandies (depending on what buffs you have, and if your mind is high enough without them, you might want to save the last spot for a instant 400+ mind heal whilst drinking that second brandy), once your synth steak runs out eat the exo-protein wafers, they have only 5 fill and protect against 25% damage. You can also eat Thaktillo, depending on the defenses of your template. With Fencer x4xx(the Def Vs KD line) I didn't need thaktillo, but when dropping that line I noticed a huge difference, so thaktillo is optional.
Anything else I missed? Just post and I'll try to help you out with whatever else you might need.
DaGame2584
Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:18 am
#7
I have brandy and steak, but no other food besides canape. Where do find those others to buy? Do I just get my mind buffed or do I get focus and willpower buffed as well?
Daunte89 wrote:
Start off with intimidate until it sticks, then you can either do mind hit 1/2 and stack bleeds, or you can do headhit3. If she bleeds you, warcry, peace, and /firstaid. And if you're not speedcapped, be prepared to be there a long time, unless you have someone with you.
Now as to the foods to bring, get your normal doc/dancer buffs, and while waiting on those buffs eat a synth steak (so that way when you get to your target you should have no filling left from it), then travel to Dath and look around. Once you find it drink 1-2 brandies (depending on what buffs you have, and if your mind is high enough without them, you might want to save the last spot for a instant 400+ mind heal whilst drinking that second brandy), once your synth steak runs out eat the exo-protein wafers, they have only 5 fill and protect against 25% damage. You can also eat Thaktillo, depending on the defenses of your template. With Fencer x4xx(the Def Vs KD line) I didn't need thaktillo, but when dropping that line I noticed a huge difference, so thaktillo is optional.
Anything else I missed? Just post and I'll try to help you out with whatever else you might need.
Dovakic
Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:20 am
#8
I personally drink both brandys while waiting for the buffs, then youll have your +800 mind, and a half empty stomach by the time you get where your going. So you can down a mando wine (if your server has them yet, they're GREAT for tanking stuff, but suck for sustanined combat). Also, verciupi is awesome, esp the 50 filling stuff. Down one of those, thats +1000 ham (atleast on tempest), and then pop exo-protein wafers to keep your damage reduction up for 21 hits at 5 filling a pop.
Daunte89
Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:34 am
#9
Lots of the food is just different prefernces, some people swear by synth steak, others (like myself) like the less-filling alternate. I personally use canape only in emergencies, and muon if necessary for a +500 instant mind heal.
Yes, get all mind buffs, and you can also get duel dancer buffs if you get first one, then when the dancer starts the 2nd one keep watching, ask the dancer to stop dancing, run out of range, then when your first dance buff runs out, you have another one lined up already. *Note: this only works with either dance or music buffs, not both*
And in my opinion it would be best just to expirement with the foods that suit you best, the must haves are brandy/exo-protein/canape, also keep a pixie and muon out for emergencies. I don't think that vercupti would be that good, because it has 50fill, and it only lasts 7:30-8:00 minutes. But again it is all personal preference.
It took me about 3-4 elders whilst going with friends to be able to figure out how to solo them, I'm sure others just went out and did it the first time, but if you want to solo you might want to try grouped first, just so you get the hang of it. After you do start soloing, you have to pick your fights, if you have no stun protection run from anything above a spell weaver with a stun bat. Your buffs last a while, don't waste them trying to kill one elder, there are plenty more out there.
Yes, get all mind buffs, and you can also get duel dancer buffs if you get first one, then when the dancer starts the 2nd one keep watching, ask the dancer to stop dancing, run out of range, then when your first dance buff runs out, you have another one lined up already. *Note: this only works with either dance or music buffs, not both*
And in my opinion it would be best just to expirement with the foods that suit you best, the must haves are brandy/exo-protein/canape, also keep a pixie and muon out for emergencies. I don't think that vercupti would be that good, because it has 50fill, and it only lasts 7:30-8:00 minutes. But again it is all personal preference.
It took me about 3-4 elders whilst going with friends to be able to figure out how to solo them, I'm sure others just went out and did it the first time, but if you want to solo you might want to try grouped first, just so you get the hang of it. After you do start soloing, you have to pick your fights, if you have no stun protection run from anything above a spell weaver with a stun bat. Your buffs last a while, don't waste them trying to kill one elder, there are plenty more out there.
Daunte89
Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:36 am
#10
And about drinking both brandies, I only do that when I have my 52:00 brandy, and then I only drink it whilst leaving science outpost. I find that you only have 10-15 minutes left on brandy if you drink it during buffs. And you have to factor in the time it takes to find the Elders too...
Wisky
Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:34 pm
#11
It may be differant as a speed capped swordsman as I can take an elder down in about 5 minutes but If u have 80+% comp armor and always keep her intimidated you should be fine. I have even killed a stun baton elder and I did not have a psg but I was with a RM buddy. As for useing other foods never really thopught about it till a couple of days ago. I will definatly use steak but only when needed. If i get a musician buff then I dont use canape. So my stomach is usually empty. I am sure steak would of helped with the baton elder. The biggest thing is keeping them intimidated. I mean you dont want a special when they are not intimidated with an armor piercing 2 weapon. It can hurt. Also someone mentioned about bleeds IF u are 2340 medic then u can hit twice inbetween healing bleeds. So If I start to bleed I will use the warcry once but after that she will resist. So I would headhit 3 twice as soon as I seen the system message that I can heal more damage I heal bleed. I will continue to do that untill the bleed is very small or it stops comlpetey.
Usually a bleed from an elder takes 4 times to heal if not more and sometimes it ticks for 1300. The second you start to bleed use the warcry then make sure your health is full. IF a bleed ticksthen she drops the intim and wacks u it could be over real fast. Or if she gets a KD/dizzy on u say bye bye. So my advice is when you are bleeding take care of it asap, dont stop hitting her all together or you will be there all night. Im just saying it gets tough when u havea nice bleed on you.
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