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Thread: Whats Going on with counterattack

atimes
Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:23 pm
#1

Counterattack itself probably won't be nerfed. The stacking of carbineer, swordsman counterattack will be looked into.


It's well known (to people with a clue anyway) that a lone professions defense mods (even with COB) isn't a huge problem. Stacked defensive mods by mastering various defensive disciplines from different ranged and melee professions is creating unbalanced characters that are virtually unhitable characters. That is the problem.


Unfortunately most people don't realize it's stacked mods at work. They see in their combat log that a person is counterattacking all of their shots and see "swordsman" floating above that person's head and assume that "swordsman" need a nerf. Swordsman counterattack isn't the problem. It's swordsman counterattack stacked with carbineer counterattack that is causing the problem.


The most common form of this is pistoleer + fencer with the stacked dodge mods. This is the current 1337 UB3R PvP PWNAGE combat template of the month.

Ypiana
Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:01 pm
#2

This was nerfed a couple weeks ago.


Your counterattack only seems to equal the counterattack for the weapon you're holding. Thus if you have +120 carbine counterattack and pick up a sword, the counterattack doesn't apply anymore.


Pistoleer / fencer have noted the same thing.


Ranged and melee numbers still stack though.


-- Ypi




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Destination
Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:06 am
#3



Ypiana wrote:

Ranged and melee numbers still stack though.

-- Ypi






Which is just as bad.



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angristVong
Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:47 am
#4

its not just as bad at all.



some of you kite jockiees got the bright idea to stack carbines and swords which isnt meant to work together.



melees mixing up elites is perfectly fine and makes sense.


yes you don't get hit as often - but you do get hit.


with counter attacks overt say 140 - this is way off scale since this is a very powerful attack in the game mechanics.


they cant just nerf melee and ranged defense since it is a central part of combat.

SteveHotze
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:23 am
#5

I heard that i was going to be nerfed in a upcoming patch.


Does anyone know if this is true and if so what is going to be in the place of counterattack?

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