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Thread: freinds, imperials, swordsman lend me your auditory inputs the cleaver is our best weapon!!
but why oh why do you say this???
1. accuracy accuracy accuracy - you can have all the power in the world but it don't mean jack if you can't hit nothing. i feel sorry for swordsman who don't master brawler - our accuracy is about 135 WITH master brawler.
so if you use a powerhammer which can have anywhere from -28 to -31 in accuracy mods thats a big big diff!!
thats basically taking a masterswordsman./brawler down to an accuracy of 100 which makes you very very bad in PVP and even pve.
2. tighter damage - a good cleaver would have a 135-294 thats really really tight for most weapons - even fencers don't have it that good. - that means when you hit its a good hit most of the time.
plus with the new fubar damage mitigation this is even more important
3. HAM COSTS oh yah - drop some of your STR bar and put it back into something else! cuz cleavers have much less ham not that killar 114 health- though the action cost is a bit more- that means more specials!!
4. SPEED - i am still not convience with a speed of 85 that my hammer hits every second. it seems to lag a lot and not hit - also i believe healing is tied into your speed or delay on swings - this is crucial in pvp.
with a cleaver you have a speed of around 3.4 - thats an easy hit every second at master even without master brawler.
plus it has medium armor piercing!!!!
so drop those crappy hammers!!!
yes sometimes with a hammer you get off a 5k shot or more - but how often is that?
how often do you miss and go down because of our crappy defenses?
accuracy cannot be understanded - cleavers have a -8! and that is it. that means all those bleeds and lunges actually hit!!
go ahead and test the cleaver - go to any npc dungeon and see if you cant kill even faster!
however i agree that blast damage sometimes comes in handy - but not always and less and less it seems.
try using a powerhammer on a nightsister with 100 blast and 40 kinetic.
the powerhammer should be a backupweapon
I find that I drop targets in PvE much quicker with a hammer, but the Cleaver/2hAxe are best for PvP (Or I KD with the Cleaver/2hAxe and then while they're down i pull out my 800 damage hammer and headhit3
)A good Swordsman uses his whole arsenal, applying each weapon to the right situation.
There is no one right choice.
just where do you guys get 800dm hammers?
ihave a 465dm, dm sliced hammer with a pu its 720dm orso
how the hell do you get like 100 extra dm?
2 hand axe?
im pretty sure it isnt medium ap and i know the damage is pretty lame.
haha
but whatever works for you
angristVong wrote:2 hand axe?
im pretty sure it isnt medium ap and i know the damage is pretty lame.
haha
but whatever works for you
It has Medium AP, and if you can find good Steel for the Advanced components, it pretty similar to a cleaver as far as damage and speed go - but it has much higher range mods.
angristVong wrote:2 hand axe?
im pretty sure it isnt medium ap and i know the damage is pretty lame.
haha
but whatever works for you
It has Medium AP, and if you can find good Steel for the Advanced components, it pretty similar to a cleaver as far as damage and speed go - but it has much higher range mods.
Or even better... Our best weapon... is.... Switching weapons!!
Apply 5k damage worth of mind bleeds with the power hammer (stacking bleed 1 and 2)
Then switch to the clever and tap on mind hit 3.
All I ever use is the cleaver: Power Hammer is awesome for mind bleeds, granted, but speed reductions actually make overall DOT slower than usual.
For my character after figuring it out, I slap a bleed with my cleaver, and am able to rip off Mind 2 (low-level still) so quickly that creatures die quickly.
...unless the creatures magically don't target my buff Heatlh/Action and instead bust through my 1100 mind. :/
you're right on the two handed axes
those can be great in the right hands with the +11 accuracy.