Swordsman Archive

Its kind of the point i think, just look at the NS energy lance or the Geonosian blaster, there aren't many to start with, let alone them running out.

I think we have it pretty good seen as you can help you mates do it (if they aren't a swordsman) and get another 4 schematics, that presuming they haven't reset their tatooine missions.

So if you and 3 friends each do the missions twice thats 12 potential scythes, that sounds more than enough for me, and plus i'm sure alot of us have more friends than 3.

I've been hitting on this for a while. Whether Scythes are common on your server or rare, they can only become more rare with time. There have been some problems with Geo cubes being used without "serials" that have allowed mass production of scythes. This is an exploit though and probably won't be around forever. If this gets fixed I think we'll see Scythes becoming increasingly rare and even impossible to obtain.

A while back TH claimed that there were -3- ways to get Scythe schematics. I've been trying to get a response on this for a while -- where are these things? Given that no one has found them yet I think that these must not yet be in the game. Will they be?

This might be a candidate to consider for our one question, where are the other scythe schematic drops? Are they still coming?

StGabe.

Look at the schematic for that carbine from the geo cave....good gun, and you can do it as many times as you want. I hope there are 2 more ways to get it, or at least there will be 2 more ways. Thanks for answering.

Well, the featherweight fwg5, the E-11 that causes a bleed dot and the Republic blaster with the dot, all 1 time loot schimatics are still all over my server. If there is a shortage it will be a long time off.

I also have a weaponsmith that has kept up with demand, no exploit, just buys the schimatics and parts for a fair price/trade and produces. Bought 8 Scythe's off of him and he still has 50 on hand. 500K a pop, but heh, oh well.

I am of the camp that I like to see semi rare items in the game, so if there are fewer Scythe's in the future that is just fine by me really. You need more schimatics? I know of a way, that is not an exploit that could potentially get you unlimited numbers of them, just have to use your imagination.

Shoot, right now, today, hire people that cary guns to go do the mission with you, pay them 100K for the schimatic and do this for maybe 5 people. Cost you 500K for schimatics that will produce 10 Scythes. Hire docs and entertainers or noobs, there is no shortage really, you just need to be creative. I promise you that a year from now they may be more rare, but not like you think. But having this weapon bea little hard to get ahold of adds to the fun, so don't worry, enjoy the hunt!

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RebalMarineHunter wrote:

I am of the camp that I like to see semi rare items in the game, so if there are fewer Scythe's in the future that is just fine by me really. You need more schimatics? I know of a way, that is not an exploit that could potentially get you unlimited numbers of them, just have to use your imagination.

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You can always get people from other servers to get the schematic, delete the char, remake and repeat. I'm assuming this is the way your talking about, but IMO this is not the way it should work. I don't mind people doing it, but if the devs are taking odd things like this into consideration when decideing what to do, I think that is pretty pathetic.

I will barely call the scythe a new weapon for swordsman. When the average price is around 500k each, no average person is going to use one all the time. Thats like buying composite suits for 500k that only last for 2-3 days.

The featherweight and E-11 are exceptions because they don't require rare loot. Weaponsmiths can basically make 500-1000 per schematic.

Message Edited by Numen on 04-26-2004 10:08 AM

You can't effectively use people from other servers as it is necessary to grind up to a certain level of combat skills before you can take the quests. If you know of another legit manner to obtain more of these then, by all means, letus know.

As far as the Lightweight FWG5, enhanced E11, etc. These are 1-time drops and I agree that they are problematic as such. However they do not require any dropped loot and as such, one can make a schematic for 1,000 guns with each use. Assuming you get 4 scythes out of each Scythe schematic then you can still get 250 times more FWG5's and Enhanced E11's per schematic.

StGabe.

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StGabriel wrote:
You can't effectively use people from other servers as it is necessary to grind up to a certain level of combat skills before you can take the quests. If you know of another legit manner to obtain more of these then, by all means, letus know.

As far as the Lightweight FWG5, enhanced E11, etc. These are 1-time drops and I agree that they are problematic as such. However they do not require any dropped loot and as such, one can make a schematic for 1,000 guns with each use. Assuming you get 4 scythes out of each Scythe schematic then you can still get 250 times more FWG5's and Enhanced E11's per schematic.

StGabe.

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Not to mention that these schematics [Featherweight FWG5, Enhanced E11, Modified Republic Blaster] are rewards from theme parks people run in the normal course of play, while the scythe is a very specialized quest set. This means that there are inevitably going to be more of the schematics available on any given server than scythe schematics, which you would only acquire if you intended to make a scythe.

Look, I know I am not the majority, but I like rare things, even weapons. I am actually a little upset by them making the tusken jackets and mask lootable again, what made them so cool was how rare they are.

As far as the schimatics, honestly, if you are worried about running out of schimatics for the Scythe go and find the people around a starport, pay them to run the quest and to get the schimatic for you. Or, have some freinds do it for you. There are a lot of swordsman, but a lot more ranged people or TK's, therefore there are a lot of potential schimatics floating around. Pay these people whatever you think the schimatic is worth and go at it. If you collect even 5 schimatics that is good for 10 scythe, get 10 schimatics, get 20 weapons. I am sure you will not find it all that hard to get these if you work with the people you know or meet.

Now, if it gets unreasonably hard to obtain these weapons later, then I am all for another quest to get another 2 schimatics, I like quests so that would be fun but I would still like to see it be a one time quest per person as too keep the number of these things down some.

I am sure that many disagree and would just like to see this thing become common and easily craftable, I just disagree, that's all. To me I love my Scythe's because they are a little hard to get and they are nice weapons. But, whatever really, I'm sure just like all things in this game they will become commplace and found on the bazaar soon for 6K.

Where do I reset my tatooine missions, I want to get another schematic?

I kind of agree that I like the idea of the Scythe being semi rare to get of course we don't want it to eventually run out but we also don't want it to be able to be farmed easily.Making it so you can redo the Scythe quest once a month would be asimple fix but I'm not sure if its possible.

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RebalMarineHunter wrote:

Look, I know I am not the majority, but I like rare things, even weapons. I am actually a little upset by them making the tusken jackets and mask lootable again, what made them so cool was how rare they are.

As far as the schimatics, honestly, if you are worried about running out of schimatics for the Scythe go and find the people around a starport, pay them to run the quest and to get the schimatic for you. Or, have some freinds do it for you. There are a lot of swordsman, but a lot more ranged people or TK's, therefore there are a lot of potential schimatics floating around. Pay these people whatever you think the schimatic is worth and go at it. If you collect even 5 schimatics that is good for 10 scythe, get 10 schimatics, get 20 weapons. I am sure you will not find it all that hard to get these if you work with the people you know or meet.

Now, if it gets unreasonably hard to obtain these weapons later, then I am all for another quest to get another 2 schimatics, I like quests so that would be fun but I would still like to see it be a one time quest per person as too keep the number of these things down some.

I am sure that many disagree and would just like to see this thing become common and easily craftable, I just disagree, that's all. To me I love my Scythe's because they are a little hard to get and they are nice weapons. But, whatever really, I'm sure just like all things in this game they will become commplace and found on the bazaar soon for 6K.

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I'll admit it. I'm a loot addict. If it's rare, I want it.Don't care if it even has any use. The scythe to me is the pinacle of loot. Spending the time to get the schematics, then get more schematics, get the Geonosian Sword Core schematic, get sets of 7-matching serial agents and yellow cubes…. I actually enjoy that. So far I've had 6 scythes made, 4 from looted cores, 2 from crafted, and I love them all. I have 2 more schematics awaiting the matching sets of cubes and cores (I've got 3x7 matching agents and I should have just won an auction on 7 matching cubes) and the day I get them made is going to be a great day. Would it be nice to have another weapon of comperable worth to the PH that was easy to acquire? Yes. But the scythe is something special, and I'd hate to see that go away.