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Thread: Ranged v. Melee PvP!- Best Temp

Triarius
Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:39 pm
#1

I am Currently Msw/Mtk/Doc 4/0/0/0


I was.. Mbh/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4


I have found that Msw/Mtk/Doc is far better in almost all pvp and pve then what is considered among the best ranged temps above. For example I was dueling a Msmuggler/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4, who can nearly chain root me and has excellent skill and I won hands down in 3 duels. I was then Dueling a Jedi Mpowers/Mdefense who I also beat hands down. Most temps cannot beat the COB and Healing at the same time. In fact when facing a Mbh/Mpistols I was able to end the duel without any more than 200 damage on me. (All opps i faced had top-class weps)


Against PvE I have found that with swords I can equal the damage of ranged and still tank. Roots do not quite equal our tanking ability.. as when it falls you must wait for it to recharge and things such as Krayts are very hard to kite with the ranged weapon speed problem.I also found it easy to beat NS and even (although hard) possible to beat Black Sun Groups.


It is my new opinion that melee is much better than ranged in nearly all situations but those where there are enough opps to chain root you. If you have Stim Ds and do not have doctor, i have seen that you can still survive a smuggler/pistol combo and win although at a lesser margin.
Matt090586
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:15 pm
#2


yep, I love that template, although when pub19 hits I'll be switching to 0004 doc for adrenal boost and a set of +68 healing efficiency clothes....hmmmm...delicious


Only problem is deciding what to invest the 4 other SP in

Message Edited by Matt090586 on 06-28-2005 12:17 AM



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Tymothi
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:32 pm
#3

+68 healing efficiency clothes?? You do know the cap is at +25, don't you?




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ovairi
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:33 pm
#4


Completely agree, i had the same temp (except Mcarbs instead of rifles) and on thursday i respec'd to the same melee/doc temp, unbelivible change in pvp and pve. Except pvp against range ppl who run sucks.




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Matt090586
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:35 pm
#5

+17 shirt, pants, jacket, bandolier = 68. By adding each piece clothing with heals in between, I can say that there does not seem to be a cap.....only diminishing returns.



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Martimus
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:56 pm
#6



Triarius wrote:
I am Currently Msw/Mtk/Doc 4/0/0/0
I was.. Mbh/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4
I have found that Msw/Mtk/Doc is far better in almost all pvp and pve then what is considered among the best ranged temps above. For example I was dueling a Msmuggler/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4, who can nearly chain root me and has excellent skill and I won hands down in 3 duels. I was then Dueling a Jedi Mpowers/Mdefense who I also beat hands down. Most temps cannot beat the COB and Healing at the same time. In fact when facing a Mbh/Mpistols I was able to end the duel without any more than 200 damage on me. (All opps i faced had top-class weps)
Against PvE I have found that with swords I can equal the damage of ranged and still tank. Roots do not quite equal our tanking ability.. as when it falls you must wait for it to recharge and things such as Krayts are very hard to kite with the ranged weapon speed problem. I also found it easy to beat NS and even (although hard) possible to beat Black Sun Groups.
It is my new opinion that melee is much better than ranged in nearly all situations but those where there are enough opps to chain root you. If you have Stim Ds and do not have doctor, i have seen that you can still survive a smuggler/pistol combo and win although at a lesser margin.





I don't mean to burst your bubble, and I have the same template as you. (I will never go ranged), But...

You will discover that high end PVE is impossible with melee. Try to fight a DJK if you do not believe me. You can easily solo them with ranged. Tanking only works against opponents roughly the same lvl.

Throw a bit of CM into your ranged mix and you are very hard to beat in PVP, as no melee opponent should be able to get close to you if you play your specials right. (Your healing is better then doc as well). I do very well when dueling people, but I only win against a solid ranged builds these days if they make a mistake.



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Ecnirp
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:08 am
#7






Triarius wrote:

I am Currently Msw/Mtk/Doc 4/0/0/0


I was.. Mbh/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4


I have found that Msw/Mtk/Doc is far better in almost all pvp and pve then what is considered among the best ranged temps above. For example I was dueling a Msmuggler/Mrifle/Pistol 0/4/0/4, who can nearly chain root me and has excellent skill and I won hands down in 3 duels. I was then Dueling a Jedi Mpowers/Mdefense who I also beat hands down. Most temps cannot beat the COB and Healing at the same time. In fact when facing a Mbh/Mpistols I was able to end the duel without any more than 200 damage on me. (All opps i faced had top-class weps)


Against PvE I have found that with swords I can equal the damage of ranged and still tank. Roots do not quite equal our tanking ability.. as when it falls you must wait for it to recharge and things such as Krayts are very hard to kite with the ranged weapon speed problem.I also found it easy to beat NS and even (although hard) possible to beat Black Sun Groups.


It is my new opinion that melee is much better than ranged in nearly all situations but those where there are enough opps to chain root you. If you have Stim Ds and do not have doctor, i have seen that you can still survive a smuggler/pistol combo and win although at a lesser margin.





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I did beat youonce


Ossazk
Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:15 am
#8

best temp i found out. tka 0100,fencer 0404,master swordsman,master pikeman,master brawler. ive done well in pvp and pve. i havent lost a duel yet and people commented me in how great i do. just sharing this great template to all you swordsman
D4rthReven
Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:27 pm
#9

melee is better for pvp in 1v1 and you do fine in pve. You cant take the djm because you arent using a broken skill like concussion shot. Snaring and rooting is also a boring tactic. Ranged has always been better in group pvp though eh just easier to bring a group onto 1 target while staying out of danger.



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