Swordsman Archive

hmmm

i agree with the better evade and better resist to knockdown

but the shield thing is quite silly imho... it'll probly work for one handed sword, but we are two hander.

our weapon IS our shield. =) check out other games.. if u use two handed weapon, u most likely can't use shield.. i know that our animation while carrying the weapon is one handed... but when we fight, it turns into twohand.. and if u want strapped shield(so that we don't have to hold it)... hmmm that seems lame, and hindersome to our offensive ability

anyway, samurais don't need shields, why would we.

i wish they'd increause our speed.. but i doubt it... better defense is all we need really

ranged should be weaker... thats just normal. .we're the tank after all (in other gamess.... ranged have wayyyyyyyyyy less HP and armor (and so does magician) in here.. everyone is the same.. but range still have all the advantages and no disadvantage.

/defenseposture is an interesting idea, but i seriously doubt they'd put it in.. and i wouldn't even bother pushing for it... its just too much work for an underplayed class.. but we can always hope i guess.

Shields are stupid for 2 handed. I understand giving them to 1 handed, but how do you weild a 2 handed sword and a shield? However we DO need better defense against ranged and melee.

yeah if we use shields how do we weild 2handed swords?

I've posted this twice, but for some reason it keeps getting overlooked by the majority of people (and the devs). Here goes again...

SHIELDS.

• Like the gungan's used in the battle in Episode I (valid for SW universe)


• Only works on enemies in front of you. (logical)


• Small shields have less HAMand raise Ranged Defense skill. Larger shields have higher HAM cost but also increase Ranged Defense skill more (works with existing system)


• Swordsman Finess boxes give small Ranged Defense bonus as they get better at anticpating the aim and posture of their opponent. (logical)


• If Swordsman-specific Ranged Defense works, then shield absorbs the damage (item decay, works with existing system)


• Different types of shields can absorb 0% to 100% (variable) of certain damage types (metal shields resist flame/acid/kinetic, energy shields absorb energy/blaster etc.). (works with existing system)

MELEE SPEED

• Melees have high health/action and are very fit to wield physical weapons... they should be able to catch a ranged attacker who is fleeing - within reason, perhaps 20% boost to their speed (reduces melee nerf in PvP)

MELEE DEFENSE

• Even a Master 2H Sword (Brawler) should be able to easily evade low level butterflies and gubburs... but these creatures hit with impunity. This is not realistic. (illogial)


• Swordsman Finesse needs a special move like /defenseposture1 (etc.) that greatly increases melee defense, but greatly reduces damage output (e.g. parries and defensive postures). Special move shouldreduce Action and Mind pools.


• All melee'ers should have a higher resistance to knockdown, and less actual downtime (gives value to melee class)


• Pistoleer pistol-whip attack should be greatly reduced against melee classes (logical)

Thanks for the feedback Some thoughts in return....

SWORDSMAN SHOULD NOT BE 2-HANDED ONLY... NOR IS IT AXE/HAMMER!

"Swordsman" does not imply 2-handed. That's just SOE getting confused about it's weapon classifications. Swordsman does not imply axes and hammers either, but they still managed to get in there.

Long swords, short swords, scimitars, sabers are all examples of swords that do NOT fall into the "Fencer" class. A "Fencer" is somebody using a very light, very fast piercing weapon with limited slashing ability. The slashing is mainly used to work toward a final, piercing strike.

If SOE is not going to give the "Fencer" class any features that are true of fencing, they shouldrename "Fencer" to be Swordsman, and move the swords into it. "Swordsman" should be renamed... I don't even know. "Axeman"? "

*sigh* the more I think about it, the whole thing is just a mess....

SHIELDS ARE THE ONLY SOLUTION

Think about it: if you were a swordsman and you knew you were going up against archers.. you would carry a shield.

Use a two-handed sword or cleaver or whatever when you are melee'ing (more damage dealt, but more taken)... use a shield when you are up against ranged opponents or fierce creatures that just have to touch you to make you bleed.

The ability to alternate between sword and sword/shield use adds variety and tactics to the game.

My brain is worn out for now :/

u're redifining the class...

i know that SOE naming them swordsman and fencer is kinda silly, but we know that they really mean 1 hander and two hander... u can't just assume that we can use all swords just cause we're named swordsman.. we're more of a two handed specialist.. in fact, we are =P

the type of sword we wield is different from a one handed sword... and i should say that the style resembles those used by lighter two handed axe as well, so actually the weapons right now works quite well

i still don't think shield would fit into the our class as we stand right now (two handed weapon specialist) because of the above mentioned reason...

and i personally don't like the idea of using a shield... I put my faith in my blade. that should be all...

fighting with shield + light sword is totally different than two handed sword... (play soulcalibur.. u'll see..)

archers? slash their arrow =P