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Thread: I'm getting sick of this ****

Snoova00
Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:41 am
#1

Ok i've almost ahd enough of this... Firstly and foremost our weapons are just plain F***in stupid as it is your completly WORTHLESS as a swordsmen is u don't use a 2h curved sword... It's faster, does more damage, has better to hit than any of our other weapons, and now people are saying it's frickin' AR2 **edit**!!!! I've refused to use this weapon just cause it's plain stupid how much better it is. When i decided to become a swordsmen I wanted a vibroaxe and i've got the best one i've ever seen but yet I STILL SUCK compared to anyone who uses 2h curved sword... now maybe my whole process of thinking is screwed up but doesn't it seem wrong to anyone else that there should be 1 weapon that is just so obscenely better than the rest that it's your only choice? Also i'm not sure but what does melee defense do according to the description it reduces dmg but i just got Advanced sword defense and snorbals still hit me for the same amount they did b4 i got it. If this skill doesn't reduce dmg then our only choice is to go up the offense tree which from what i can tell completly sucks until u get 3 and 4... Not to mention that I try and do imperial missions all day which hardly ever works since rebels just kite me around for about 500m b4 my pets finally finish them and then of course i return to the spawn and their repopped cause i went outside the 150m range so i have to do it all over best way i've found to do it is send in my pets and blow up the base in which case i get no xp because my pets are way out of my range by the time i kill the outpost or they kill the mob. Now maybe my problem is that i use too many special moves in fact i spam my que with them but i've never killed myself as so many people complain about in fact except for snorbals i have a very low death rate. But it really bothers me that i can't keep up with a carbineer in dmg with my 97-207 dmg 4.1 speed vibro-axe when using my special moves as he can dish out just firing without spec. moves... I know my punctuation is bad and I know alot of what i've said probally doesn't make much sense but i've just had a really messed up night on lok with about 25 deaths and only about 10k 2h xp while my BH friend using his crappy LLC got about 60k just using attack... so if your gonna bother posting to comment about my spelling or grammar or anything other than my comments about how much melee sux right now don't bother please.


Snoova


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Vattio
Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:19 am
#2

You ever tried using lunge1 or 2 if you have master borawler when they kite you?
primus_fan
Sat Aug 09, 2003 9:08 am
#3

You have sweep also...Just stop, sweep/lunge them and start running again and let the pets get em.




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BenedictAmber
Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:02 am
#4

Get a gun and shoot back. The devs have said since day one that ranged will beat melee every time. Swordsman is for mob hunters and people who are good at sneaking up on others, not for some cavalry-wannabe yahoo.
Nagorak
Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:23 am
#5

Why would you go 2H swordsman if you didn't want to use swords? Seriously, have you considered going Pole Arm instead?
Nagorak
Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:30 am
#6

BTW, hopefully they'll increase the damage of the Power Hammer (like double), and then you'll happily be able to use that instead. Right now the balance between our weapons is not good. Unlike other professions, all our weapons are basically the same and only different in DPS.


Take Carbine for example: you can use the Laser Rifle for straight up damage at long range, but then there's the DXR6 that does acid damage and is closer range (but not as much damage as the laser due to lower AR), and the EE3 which is also close range, but does heat damage and has no AR. Basically all of those guns are useful in the right situation.


Now, with swords that's just not the case. What I think the weapons should be like is this:


Power Hammer, most damage, AR3 and does blast instead of Kinetic, but slowest of our weapons. Vibro Axe, blast damage, AR1, lower damage than the PH but faster speed and more HAM efficient. Curved Sword basically as it is now kinetic damage, AR2, fast, uses action instead of health for moves. Cleaver, AR2, more HAM efficient than Curved Sword but slower and lower damage, uses action for moves.

Snoova00
Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:54 pm
#7

Sweep is a tactic i've tried on running rebels many times however the delay is just too long i haven't used 2h lunge 1 however since b4 i was a swordsmen I may try that again. As to the person asking me why I became a swordsmen if i didn't want to use swords answer: because i wanted be a badass with a vibroaxe and that's the profession that uses them.


Snoova


Swordsmen/CH/Medic


Snoova00
Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:57 pm
#8

Also i've noticed no one has responded to my comment about melee defense does anyone know how this works i've been alternating between techniques and defense because i thought melee defense reduced dmg taken but it doesn't appear to is it broken or am i confused as to what it does? Sorry about the multiple post but there's not edit option


Snoova


Swordsmen/CH/Medic

-reggie-
Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:13 am
#9

Hey, sup Snoova? Read my guide a page or two back. It gives some good hints especially on the snorbals.


Oh, I know the reason you don't like the 2 handed sword is because of its 'looks' but then again, you have to make a decision. Do you want to continue to get out-damaged by other classes or not? If you choose b, I would suggest using a two handed sword.


If you want to win a race, do you go by how good it looks or by how fast it is? It might be time you have to suck it up and start re-thinking your motivation. BTW if you need training, lemme know.




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Kinsei
Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:43 am
#10

Use Two-Hand Area Attack1.



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Hondo2003
Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:34 am
#11

i've never used area attack once in my life...guess i forgot I had it
Caelrie
Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:30 pm
#12

What's wrong with how a 2h sword looks?
Jirimar
Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:38 am
#13

Also, i noticed in your first post that you spam your special moves. Try this, it helped me live a lot longer. only use a special move once, at the begining of the battle, then let your auto attack do the rest. i don't know how many times i killed myself because i spammed my moves til it drained me all the way to dead. i do far more damage now than i ever did using special moves.


Although i do use a 2 hand sword, i started doin this when i had a cleaver, and it changed everything.




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