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Thread: Who out-damages us in PvE?

colemats
Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:35 pm
#1

In my opinion, the only people that should be able to do the same damage in PvE as a Master Heavy Swordsman, is a Master Commando. However, is it true that a Master TKA can do as much damage with some good VKs? Thanks.
Impetuousyouth
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:31 am
#2

cepends on the resistance and armour of the creature tk's only have light ap and kinetc damage so our medium ap and blast means we out damagwe them on the higher pve but on the lower end stuff there likly to do more damage cause of there speed



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ItalianJediLord
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:32 am
#3

TKAs can do a lot of damage in no time since we are fast, but if the target has high kinetic resists we are screwed. Especially if they have medium or heavy armor. If the target has light armor and about 50% kinetic and 10K HAM then maybe about 1 minute max. TKA do lots of damage but the damage is done to random pools, so we can deal out 9999k of damage to all 3 pools against an oppenent with 10k HAM and still not kill it, but Swordsman can target the mind with a strong attack plus a bleed. So, technically it depends on the target, but overall TKA can out damage a lot of professions, but it doesn't mean we can kill it faster than Swordsman.
ItalianJediLord
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:36 am
#4

I will compare when I hit Master Heavy Swordsman, because I am also a Master TKA and Brawler. Pikeman also have some nasty hits. They suppoosedly can deal out the most damage, but they are slow and inaccurate, so its hard to compare who does more damage in a given time.
Impetuousyouth
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:39 am
#5

i think perhaps bleeds could do with a little bit of a buff to make them usefual as since the nerf the max bleed i've managed to get is 500, usualy around 350 though



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JediQuic
Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:53 am
#6

riflemen, In my experience pump out the big numbers the fastest...That probably where the big damage still is today....On Light or Unarmored targets with little or no Kinetic resist TKM is by Far the most damaging profesion...But like Italian said, its random with their Big specials.


Comando's probably outdamage us if they are willing to spend the cash on one time use weapons....The FT is probably close too....Havn't seen any recent Long battle logs tho


Pikers *can* outdamage us if they Get a Realy luckystring of hits....Then again the same can be said about us
Ciirybeccaskyr
Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:09 am
#7

Rifles are the undisputed king of high end PVE damage. With the only regular AP3 weapon a 5.5 damage mod and speed cap with only +7 in speed tapes shooting weapons as powerfull as our powerhammer but with AP3. however they have NO way to kill nightsisters





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Syzygy-Gorath
Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:19 am
#8






JediQuic wrote:

riflemen, In my experience pump out the big numbers the fastest...That probably where the big damage still is today....On Light or Unarmored targets with little or no Kinetic resist TKM is by Far the most damaging profesion...But like Italian said, its random with their Big specials.


Comando's probably outdamage us if they are willing to spend the cash on one time use weapons....The FT is probably close too....Havn't seen any recent Long battle logs tho


Pikers *can* outdamage us if they Get a Realy luckystring of hits....Then again the same can be said about us






RLs, HPBCs, et ceteramight be different, but I've fought alongside Master Commandos wielding flamethrowers,and I can say with 100% surety that I outdamage them. (And when I get my crate of powerhammers tonight and get 'em sliced I'll probably be doing even more damage…mmmm…keep slicing 'till I get 2 35% speed and 2 35% damage…this is gonna be fun )



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Zutan
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:19 am
#9

I'm currently TKM and MHS.. I can tell you right now that 80% or more of the things I kill I can take out faster with a sword/hammer than I can with VK.. However, LAIRS I can take out far faster as TK.


an example would be rancors.. I run up and tag the lair then kill the whole spawn within about 1 minutes time or less. As a TK I cant do that.


I love my TK skills for certain situations, but it just doesnt work vs the higher end enemies imo.
Rro
Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:35 am
#10


Man I cant wait! I've already got a toon who is Blademaster / TKM / Master Brawler and playing that one is a lot of fun. However, I've recently started a third toon and am going down the 2 handed path. I love the damage I can do already with the hammer and I'm only 0211 with hunting 3, explore 1 and 0010 medic. I can't wait to master this profession. Now I just gotta figure out what I want to do to compliment it. I'm looking to build another tank type character.

Message Edited by Rro on 03-31-2004 10:35 AM



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Nightlyraider
Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:03 am
#11

The Swordsmans only close match is the Rifleman, and that goes both ways.


Swordsman can deal out kinetic damage insanely fast (You know people still use 2h Curved Swords and Scythes) and their blast damage can not be beaten.


Riflemen have the highest AP, and do good damage, but almost everything thats high level has big resists to Energy.


Let us not forget that we can Tank our targets, Riflemen either have to use conceal shot alot, or get a tank/exploit.



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JediQuic
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:33 am
#12






Nightlyraider wrote:

The Swordsmans only close match is the Rifleman, and that goes both ways.


Swordsman can deal out kinetic damage insanely fast (You know people still use 2h Curved Swords and Scythes) and their blast damage can not be beaten.


Riflemen have the highest AP, and do good damage, but almost everything thats high level has big resists to Energy.


Let us not forget that we can Tank our targets, Riflemen either have to use conceal shot alot, or get a tank/exploit.






Aye, I'm not saying Rifle is better then us......Just saying they do more raw damage(TK too).....I Consider raw damage the damage you do to a lair, no resistances or armor. As far as resists go tho.....we have just gotten lucky with that for the most part, Lots of things Are not BOTH blast immune and Kinitic immune....but it can happen.


About the flamethrower tho...i was just saying its Close....90% of the time i own Commando damage.....But they do do considerable damage.
Syzygy-Gorath
Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:39 am
#13






JediQuic wrote:


Aye, I'm not saying Rifle is better then us......Just saying they do more raw damage(TK too).....I Consider raw damage the damage you do to a lair, no resistances or armor. As far as resists go tho.....we have just gotten lucky with that for the most part, Lots of things Are not BOTH blast immune and Kinitic immune....but it can happen.



About the flamethrower tho...i was just saying its Close....90% of the time i own Commando damage.....But they do do considerable damage.






Now that's an interesting statement. I'm convinced lairs do have resists, even though they don't list let. Let me explain why: while grinding I would hit Huurton lairs—the rocky type—powerhammer, which is higher damage than the scythe I was using at the time, actually did less damage per hit than the scythe. Whereas the leaf-type lairs the PH would do the damage you'd expect. So, these days, I hit rocky lairs with Kinetic and leafy lairs with blast and it seems to work fine…but I'm convinced that at least the rocky lairs do have resists.



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